Author: Mark Young
Date: 03:30:58 06/26/01
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On June 26, 2001 at 06:23:07, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >On June 26, 2001 at 05:15:56, Mark Young wrote: > >>I don?t think this that arguments passes the laugh test, most players? trainee >>with some kind of computer aid, chess bases, programs etc. They have too, to >>compete in today?s chess tournaments. Programs have been around for many years, >>and I would doubt this is any players first time seeing a chess computer. > >Let me tell you about some of my real life experiences with this. > >When Mat(h) (Belgian program that competed in Leiden) was first >publicly presented, an exhibition match was played vs about 34 >volunteers. > >It was quite well publisided so players up to 2250 ELO joined (this >is much for Belgium). > >In the games, most opponents were crushed. Although the program is >not very strong at all (look at the Leiden results), even the strongest >players lost without much chances, or had to content themselves with >a draw. > >There was one, at that time 1300 rated player, that did quite the >opposite. He crushed it. Rather easily even. (I knew this player and >had been watching the match closely) > >How come this 1300 did so well even though the 2200's had trouble? > >This player sometimes played on chess severs, and was familiar with >chessprograms, and had played them before. He knew where they were >weak. In the Mat(h) game he castled on opposite sides and stormed >Maths kingside. The program had no clue what was going on and lost. > >Most of the 1800-2200 players knew Fritz quite well. They used it to >look up games. They used it for analysis. They sometimes played in >sparring or friend mode. But they never played it seriously full- >strength. They had no idea how to beat the program. Most of them >played totally open postions. I saw nearly no closed manoeuvering >games. They were just playing like they played other humans. And it >didn't work. Is this what is happening with Chesstiger, the IMs and GMs are just Ignorant on how to cope with ChessTiger. I guess there is no way to prove that, so your safe if that is what you believe. > >-- >GCP
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