Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:44:51 06/27/01
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On June 27, 2001 at 02:07:10, Uri Blass wrote: >On June 27, 2001 at 00:26:28, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>On June 26, 2001 at 03:58:02, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On June 26, 2001 at 03:34:44, Adolfo Bormida wrote: >>> >>>>Win 3 draw 1 Croos Table >>>> >>>> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 >>>> >>>> 1 Slipak,Sergio 2448 * 1 1 1 3.0/0 0.00 >>>> 2 Matsuura,Everaldo 2467 1 * 1 0 2.0/0 0.00 >>>> 3 Limp,Eduardo 2465 1 * 1 1 3.0/0 0.00 >>>> 4 Rodriguez,Andrés 2500 * 3 1 0 4.0/0 0.00 >>>> 5 Andres,Miguel 2382 * 1 1 1 3.0/0 0.00 >>>> 6 Hoffman,Alejandro 2453 * 1 1 1 3.0/0 0.00 >>>> 7 Dorin,Mauricio 2410 1 * 1 0 2.0/0 0.00 >>>> 8 Valerga,Diego 2468 1 1 1 * 3.0/0 0.00 >>>> 9 Scarella,Enrique 2361 0 1 1 * 2.0/0 0.00 >>>> 10 Ricardi,Pablo 2554 1 1 1 * 3.0/0 0.00 >>>> 11 Panno,Oscar 2471 1 1 3 * 5.0/0 0.00 >>>> 12 COMP Chess Tiger 2632* 1 3 3 * 7.0/0 0.00 >>>> >>>>Standard crosstable >>>> >>>>IV Magistral República Argentina 2001 >>>> >>>> 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 >>>> 1 COMP Chess Tiger 2632 +102 * ½ 1 1 2.5/3 >>>> 2 Panno,Oscar 2471 +131 * ½ 1 ½ 2.0/3 >>>> 3 Limp,Eduardo 2465 +26 ½ * ½ ½ 1.5/3 2.50 >>>> 4 Slipak,Sergio 2448 +73 ½ ½ * ½ 1.5/3 2.50 >>>> 5 Ricardi,Pablo 2554 -105 ½ * ½ ½ 1.5/3 2.25 >>>> 6 Valerga,Diego 2468 -53 * ½ ½ ½ 1.5/3 2.00 >>>> 7 Andres,Miguel 2382 +79 ½ ½ * ½ 1.5/3 2.00 >>>> 8 Rodriguez,Andrés 2500 -38 0 ½ * 1 1.5/3 1.75 >>>> 9 Hoffman,Alejandro 2453 -40 ½ * ½ ½ 1.5/3 1.75 >>>> 10 Matsuura,Everaldo 2467 -75 0 ½ ½ * 1.0/3 1.75 >>>> 11 Dorin,Mauricio 2410 -17 0 ½ ½ * 1.0/3 1.50 >>>> 12 Scarella,Enrique 2361 -41 ½ 0 ½ * 1.0/3 1.50 >>>> >>>> Promedio elo: 2467 <=> Categoría: 9 >>>> gm = 7.00 m = 5.0 (las partidas con ChessTiger no están incluídas) >>>> * corre en PIII 866 Mhz, 256 MbRAM. SSDF Rating al 13 de Junio del 2001 >>> >>>I do not understand the big number of draws with the 3 points for a win system. >>>I expected the 3 points for a win system to encourage players to play for a win >>>but I do not see more wins than in normal tournaments and it seems that the >>>number of draws is even higher than in a normal tournament with 1 point for a >>>win and 1/2 point for a draw. >>> >>>Uri >> >> >>This may be a flawed system. The thinking is "I get 3 for a win, 1 for a draw, >>I will go for the win if at all practical." But it might end up "I get 1 for >>a draw, my opponent gets 3 for a win, so I will try for the draw rather than >>take a chance on giving him 3." >> >>IE it might actually increase the number of draws, not decrease it. > >simple logic say that if I have to choose between a forced draw >and between probability of 30% to win and 40% to lose I will choose the 30% to >win if there is 3 points for draw. > >If I get 3 wins 4 losses and 3 draws I get 3*3+4*1=13 points > >If my opponent win against me and get 9 draws in the other games he is going to >get only 3+9=12 points. > >Uri The math still works as I gave it however. If you expect to win 30%, then 3 of 10 times you will get +3 points. If you expect to lose 40%, then 4 of 10 times your opponent gets +3. No matter how you look at it, he is going to win the tournament.
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