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Subject: Re: Na3 wins again - Deep Shredder played an bad move!

Author: Mark Young

Date: 11:43:44 06/27/01

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On June 27, 2001 at 14:17:30, Eduard Nemeth wrote:

>On June 27, 2001 at 13:24:45, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On June 27, 2001 at 13:09:56, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>
>>>On June 27, 2001 at 12:45:24, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>
>>>>I post only my fantastical games....and "I'm happy"!
>>>>
>>>>Ok.?
>>>>
>>>>Best wishes,
>>>>Eduard
>>>
>>>Hi Eduard,
>>>Hi Mark,
>>>I think that Eduard discovering about weak points or "bad moves" can be very
>>>helpful for the chess programs developers community because they can learn the
>>>lesson and fix the weak points of the programs, like in this case Shredder.
>>>So I think that the contribution of Eduard is welcome as a "tester" of the
>>>computer creatures.
>>
>>The programs have the weaknesses at the time controls he is playing at, but so
>>what, this is not news to any programmer.
>>
>>He is playing tricks, do it over the board at 40/2 under tournament conditions.
>>He can't do it, unless he knows the programs book, but if you change the way the
>>program played a slight bit he would be lost again. For Eduard to win, he must
>>expolit the computer openness.
>>
>>Have Eduard play Crafty on ICC, and win a match, because Crafty will not lose to
>>this crap in match play.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>Keep up the good work Eduard.
>
>Hi!
>
>See this posting for You and say your opinion, Ok!!
>
>I play no Online-Chess in CCC - Why? But play "live" !
>Here my posting for You:
>
>
>
>"In ICC on-line chess I do not know myself yet out. Those are for me in
>addition, no normal play conditions. I would play however very gladly a " duel "
>against GM, on level lightning 5 ', 24 portions and on lightning 30 ', 10
>portions. That also almost folded it in January 2001, should in the region
>Stuttgart take place. I had a sponsor at that time already for it, and a German
>computer journal offered likewise a money on (GM does not play if he no cash for
>it receives!). I called the magazine (so they wanted to have it) accurate date
>and place, and was adjusted to it had to be played. The responsible of that
>magazine however did not want to accept my conditions (" that is too easily for
>me like that ", said it). My condition was: 14 days before the match I should
>have the original CD including book and program! The program can learn or? -)
>One offered with the following conditions (eMail I have still, think I):
>1. Another place (700 km away from me)
>2. the program version I may not know
>3. the initialization book would be likewise prepared
>4. GM wanted the magazine to place
>5. I may some hours at the PC practice, more not I rejected in such a way.
>
>I wanted to play " only " against an available PC version including book. Also
>the place specified by me was ok one, because it would have become a " public
>event ". At the place which I had suggested, took place "maemlich" a large open
>- one of the largest open of Germany! Who there too had cowardly been? I am safe
>that I in the PC duel against of GM (or IN) good chances would have had to win,
>because I was very well "drauf". Unfortunate that it did not fold.
>
>Correction:
>
>1. It should be obviously a Computer duell
>
>2. (" that is too easily for me like that ", said it) - - > that is not a
>quotation from eMail separates only summarized words in a general manner! It
>concerned it that I not too easily to have should with killer courses!
>
>3. I already knew the program, however I was not allowed to know the version
>number of the program!
>
>4. " my schedule " (January 2001) did not fit the magazine, therefore the match
>should take place elsewhere and in former times (to training I would have then
>however no time had).
>
>Eduard Nemeth

Training....Just jump online a play Crafty some games, remember you said its
easy, I say its hard....so prove it when you do not control the program then win
a match....I say you can't and/or won't do it. You know the outcome as well as
I...Crafty wins.



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