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Subject: Re: Na3 wins again - Deep Shredder played an bad move!

Author: Eduard Nemeth

Date: 11:54:49 06/27/01

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On June 27, 2001 at 14:43:44, Mark Young wrote:

>On June 27, 2001 at 14:17:30, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>On June 27, 2001 at 13:24:45, Mark Young wrote:
>>
>>>On June 27, 2001 at 13:09:56, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 12:45:24, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I post only my fantastical games....and "I'm happy"!
>>>>>
>>>>>Ok.?
>>>>>
>>>>>Best wishes,
>>>>>Eduard
>>>>
>>>>Hi Eduard,
>>>>Hi Mark,
>>>>I think that Eduard discovering about weak points or "bad moves" can be very
>>>>helpful for the chess programs developers community because they can learn the
>>>>lesson and fix the weak points of the programs, like in this case Shredder.
>>>>So I think that the contribution of Eduard is welcome as a "tester" of the
>>>>computer creatures.
>>>
>>>The programs have the weaknesses at the time controls he is playing at, but so
>>>what, this is not news to any programmer.
>>>
>>>He is playing tricks, do it over the board at 40/2 under tournament conditions.
>>>He can't do it, unless he knows the programs book, but if you change the way the
>>>program played a slight bit he would be lost again. For Eduard to win, he must
>>>expolit the computer openness.
>>>
>>>Have Eduard play Crafty on ICC, and win a match, because Crafty will not lose to
>>>this crap in match play.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Keep up the good work Eduard.
>>
>>Hi!
>>
>>See this posting for You and say your opinion, Ok!!
>>
>>I play no Online-Chess in CCC - Why? But play "live" !
>>Here my posting for You:
>>
>>
>>
>>"In ICC on-line chess I do not know myself yet out. Those are for me in
>>addition, no normal play conditions. I would play however very gladly a " duel "
>>against GM, on level lightning 5 ', 24 portions and on lightning 30 ', 10
>>portions. That also almost folded it in January 2001, should in the region
>>Stuttgart take place. I had a sponsor at that time already for it, and a German
>>computer journal offered likewise a money on (GM does not play if he no cash for
>>it receives!). I called the magazine (so they wanted to have it) accurate date
>>and place, and was adjusted to it had to be played. The responsible of that
>>magazine however did not want to accept my conditions (" that is too easily for
>>me like that ", said it). My condition was: 14 days before the match I should
>>have the original CD including book and program! The program can learn or? -)
>>One offered with the following conditions (eMail I have still, think I):
>>1. Another place (700 km away from me)
>>2. the program version I may not know
>>3. the initialization book would be likewise prepared
>>4. GM wanted the magazine to place
>>5. I may some hours at the PC practice, more not I rejected in such a way.
>>
>>I wanted to play " only " against an available PC version including book. Also
>>the place specified by me was ok one, because it would have become a " public
>>event ". At the place which I had suggested, took place "maemlich" a large open
>>- one of the largest open of Germany! Who there too had cowardly been? I am safe
>>that I in the PC duel against of GM (or IN) good chances would have had to win,
>>because I was very well "drauf". Unfortunate that it did not fold.
>>
>>Correction:
>>
>>1. It should be obviously a Computer duell
>>
>>2. (" that is too easily for me like that ", said it) - - > that is not a
>>quotation from eMail separates only summarized words in a general manner! It
>>concerned it that I not too easily to have should with killer courses!
>>
>>3. I already knew the program, however I was not allowed to know the version
>>number of the program!
>>
>>4. " my schedule " (January 2001) did not fit the magazine, therefore the match
>>should take place elsewhere and in former times (to training I would have then
>>however no time had).
>>
>>Eduard Nemeth
>
>Training....Just jump online a play Crafty some games, remember you said its
>easy, I say its hard....so prove it when you do not control the program then win
>a match....I say you can't and/or won't do it. You know the outcome as well as
>I...Crafty wins.

I played not online-chess but I played many years in chess-club, and in the
chess-club I played "live" against human "and against computer too"!

When I can "live" play against computer, than is this for me Ok.
and very interesting than this makes me happy - but online chess not.
You can for You online-chess play but, please let me "my chess" play. Ok.?

Best wishes,
Eduard



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