Author: Mark Young
Date: 12:10:37 06/27/01
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On June 27, 2001 at 15:07:41, Côme wrote:
>On June 27, 2001 at 15:06:33, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On June 27, 2001 at 15:04:12, Côme wrote:
>>
>>>On June 27, 2001 at 14:59:56, Mark Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 14:54:49, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 14:43:44, Mark Young wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 14:17:30, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 13:24:45, Mark Young wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 13:09:56, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 12:45:24, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I post only my fantastical games....and "I'm happy"!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Ok.?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>>>Eduard
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi Eduard,
>>>>>>>>>Hi Mark,
>>>>>>>>>I think that Eduard discovering about weak points or "bad moves" can be very
>>>>>>>>>helpful for the chess programs developers community because they can learn the
>>>>>>>>>lesson and fix the weak points of the programs, like in this case Shredder.
>>>>>>>>>So I think that the contribution of Eduard is welcome as a "tester" of the
>>>>>>>>>computer creatures.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>The programs have the weaknesses at the time controls he is playing at, but so
>>>>>>>>what, this is not news to any programmer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>He is playing tricks, do it over the board at 40/2 under tournament conditions.
>>>>>>>>He can't do it, unless he knows the programs book, but if you change the way the
>>>>>>>>program played a slight bit he would be lost again. For Eduard to win, he must
>>>>>>>>expolit the computer openness.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Have Eduard play Crafty on ICC, and win a match, because Crafty will not lose to
>>>>>>>>this crap in match play.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Keep up the good work Eduard.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>See this posting for You and say your opinion, Ok!!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I play no Online-Chess in CCC - Why? But play "live" !
>>>>>>>Here my posting for You:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>"In ICC on-line chess I do not know myself yet out. Those are for me in
>>>>>>>addition, no normal play conditions. I would play however very gladly a " duel "
>>>>>>>against GM, on level lightning 5 ', 24 portions and on lightning 30 ', 10
>>>>>>>portions. That also almost folded it in January 2001, should in the region
>>>>>>>Stuttgart take place. I had a sponsor at that time already for it, and a German
>>>>>>>computer journal offered likewise a money on (GM does not play if he no cash for
>>>>>>>it receives!). I called the magazine (so they wanted to have it) accurate date
>>>>>>>and place, and was adjusted to it had to be played. The responsible of that
>>>>>>>magazine however did not want to accept my conditions (" that is too easily for
>>>>>>>me like that ", said it). My condition was: 14 days before the match I should
>>>>>>>have the original CD including book and program! The program can learn or? -)
>>>>>>>One offered with the following conditions (eMail I have still, think I):
>>>>>>>1. Another place (700 km away from me)
>>>>>>>2. the program version I may not know
>>>>>>>3. the initialization book would be likewise prepared
>>>>>>>4. GM wanted the magazine to place
>>>>>>>5. I may some hours at the PC practice, more not I rejected in such a way.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I wanted to play " only " against an available PC version including book. Also
>>>>>>>the place specified by me was ok one, because it would have become a " public
>>>>>>>event ". At the place which I had suggested, took place "maemlich" a large open
>>>>>>>- one of the largest open of Germany! Who there too had cowardly been? I am safe
>>>>>>>that I in the PC duel against of GM (or IN) good chances would have had to win,
>>>>>>>because I was very well "drauf". Unfortunate that it did not fold.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Correction:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>1. It should be obviously a Computer duell
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>2. (" that is too easily for me like that ", said it) - - > that is not a
>>>>>>>quotation from eMail separates only summarized words in a general manner! It
>>>>>>>concerned it that I not too easily to have should with killer courses!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>3. I already knew the program, however I was not allowed to know the version
>>>>>>>number of the program!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>4. " my schedule " (January 2001) did not fit the magazine, therefore the match
>>>>>>>should take place elsewhere and in former times (to training I would have then
>>>>>>>however no time had).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Eduard Nemeth
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Training....Just jump online a play Crafty some games, remember you said its
>>>>>>easy, I say its hard....so prove it when you do not control the program then win
>>>>>>a match....I say you can't and/or won't do it. You know the outcome as well as
>>>>>>I...Crafty wins.
>>>>>
>>>>>I played not online-chess but I played many years in chess-club, and in the
>>>>>chess-club I played "live" against human "and against computer too"!
>>>>>
>>>>>When I can "live" play against computer, than is this for me Ok.
>>>>>and very interesting than this makes me happy - but online chess not.
>>>>>You can for You online-chess play but, please let me "my chess" play. Ok.?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>How convenient for you……I sure it has nothing to do with you not being able to
>>>>control the outcome of game…….What ever. I must be a profit because I knew you
>>>>would refuse to back up your claims.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Best wishes,
>>>>>Eduard
>>>
>>>Hello !
>>>Why do you attack Eduard ?
>>>You think games he post are somewhat fixed or manipulated ?
>>>Crafty is not invicible you know, it is beatable even at blitz.
>>>Best regards
>>>Alexandre Côme
>>
>>
>>Sure it is, but not by a player of his skill level when he can not control the
>>outcome....THAT IS THE POINT.
>
>How do you know his skill level ?
Because I know he is not a FM, IM, or GM. Do you know something I don't about
his skill level.
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