Author: Mark Young
Date: 13:03:44 06/27/01
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On June 27, 2001 at 15:54:59, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>On June 27, 2001 at 15:10:37, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On June 27, 2001 at 15:07:41, Côme wrote:
>>
>>>On June 27, 2001 at 15:06:33, Mark Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 15:04:12, Côme wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 14:59:56, Mark Young wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 14:54:49, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 14:43:44, Mark Young wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 14:17:30, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 13:24:45, Mark Young wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 13:09:56, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 12:45:24, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>I post only my fantastical games....and "I'm happy"!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Ok.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>Eduard
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Eduard,
>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Mark,
>>>>>>>>>>>I think that Eduard discovering about weak points or "bad moves" can be very
>>>>>>>>>>>helpful for the chess programs developers community because they can learn the
>>>>>>>>>>>lesson and fix the weak points of the programs, like in this case Shredder.
>>>>>>>>>>>So I think that the contribution of Eduard is welcome as a "tester" of the
>>>>>>>>>>>computer creatures.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>The programs have the weaknesses at the time controls he is playing at, but so
>>>>>>>>>>what, this is not news to any programmer.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>He is playing tricks, do it over the board at 40/2 under tournament conditions.
>>>>>>>>>>He can't do it, unless he knows the programs book, but if you change the way the
>>>>>>>>>>program played a slight bit he would be lost again. For Eduard to win, he must
>>>>>>>>>>expolit the computer openness.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Have Eduard play Crafty on ICC, and win a match, because Crafty will not lose to
>>>>>>>>>>this crap in match play.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Keep up the good work Eduard.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>See this posting for You and say your opinion, Ok!!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I play no Online-Chess in CCC - Why? But play "live" !
>>>>>>>>>Here my posting for You:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>"In ICC on-line chess I do not know myself yet out. Those are for me in
>>>>>>>>>addition, no normal play conditions. I would play however very gladly a " duel "
>>>>>>>>>against GM, on level lightning 5 ', 24 portions and on lightning 30 ', 10
>>>>>>>>>portions. That also almost folded it in January 2001, should in the region
>>>>>>>>>Stuttgart take place. I had a sponsor at that time already for it, and a German
>>>>>>>>>computer journal offered likewise a money on (GM does not play if he no cash for
>>>>>>>>>it receives!). I called the magazine (so they wanted to have it) accurate date
>>>>>>>>>and place, and was adjusted to it had to be played. The responsible of that
>>>>>>>>>magazine however did not want to accept my conditions (" that is too easily for
>>>>>>>>>me like that ", said it). My condition was: 14 days before the match I should
>>>>>>>>>have the original CD including book and program! The program can learn or? -)
>>>>>>>>>One offered with the following conditions (eMail I have still, think I):
>>>>>>>>>1. Another place (700 km away from me)
>>>>>>>>>2. the program version I may not know
>>>>>>>>>3. the initialization book would be likewise prepared
>>>>>>>>>4. GM wanted the magazine to place
>>>>>>>>>5. I may some hours at the PC practice, more not I rejected in such a way.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>I wanted to play " only " against an available PC version including book. Also
>>>>>>>>>the place specified by me was ok one, because it would have become a " public
>>>>>>>>>event ". At the place which I had suggested, took place "maemlich" a large open
>>>>>>>>>- one of the largest open of Germany! Who there too had cowardly been? I am safe
>>>>>>>>>that I in the PC duel against of GM (or IN) good chances would have had to win,
>>>>>>>>>because I was very well "drauf". Unfortunate that it did not fold.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Correction:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>1. It should be obviously a Computer duell
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>2. (" that is too easily for me like that ", said it) - - > that is not a
>>>>>>>>>quotation from eMail separates only summarized words in a general manner! It
>>>>>>>>>concerned it that I not too easily to have should with killer courses!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>3. I already knew the program, however I was not allowed to know the version
>>>>>>>>>number of the program!
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>4. " my schedule " (January 2001) did not fit the magazine, therefore the match
>>>>>>>>>should take place elsewhere and in former times (to training I would have then
>>>>>>>>>however no time had).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Eduard Nemeth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Training....Just jump online a play Crafty some games, remember you said its
>>>>>>>>easy, I say its hard....so prove it when you do not control the program then win
>>>>>>>>a match....I say you can't and/or won't do it. You know the outcome as well as
>>>>>>>>I...Crafty wins.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>I played not online-chess but I played many years in chess-club, and in the
>>>>>>>chess-club I played "live" against human "and against computer too"!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>When I can "live" play against computer, than is this for me Ok.
>>>>>>>and very interesting than this makes me happy - but online chess not.
>>>>>>>You can for You online-chess play but, please let me "my chess" play. Ok.?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>How convenient for you……I sure it has nothing to do with you not being able to
>>>>>>control the outcome of game…….What ever. I must be a profit because I knew you
>>>>>>would refuse to back up your claims.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Best wishes,
>>>>>>>Eduard
>>>>>
>>>>>Hello !
>>>>>Why do you attack Eduard ?
>>>>>You think games he post are somewhat fixed or manipulated ?
>>>>>Crafty is not invicible you know, it is beatable even at blitz.
>>>>>Best regards
>>>>>Alexandre Côme
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Sure it is, but not by a player of his skill level when he can not control the
>>>>outcome....THAT IS THE POINT.
>>>
>>>How do you know his skill level ?
>>
>>Because I know he is not a FM, IM, or GM. Do you know something I don't about
>>his skill level.
>
>Hello Mark!
>
>Give me 10.000 Dollars and I play against the German Champion an match , Ok.?
>I asked last Year an gernman national Master (!)- on telephon - for a match
>on ten games Blitz 30'. He say me Ok. but only > 5.000 Dollars.
>When I have 10.000 Dollas, than this match (i belive) run, and all this "live" !
No not OK! What does that have to do with playing computers, you can do that for
free...but you refuse....I wonder why?
I was told to "check with Eduard", as you could prove computer's are 2100, weak,
easy to beat or some such nonsense....I checked and got my answer.
>
>
>Eduard
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