Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 13:19:38 06/27/01
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On June 27, 2001 at 16:03:44, Mark Young wrote:
>On June 27, 2001 at 15:54:59, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>
>>On June 27, 2001 at 15:10:37, Mark Young wrote:
>>
>>>On June 27, 2001 at 15:07:41, Côme wrote:
>>>
>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 15:06:33, Mark Young wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 15:04:12, Côme wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 14:59:56, Mark Young wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 14:54:49, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 14:43:44, Mark Young wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 14:17:30, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 13:24:45, Mark Young wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 13:09:56, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>On June 27, 2001 at 12:45:24, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>I post only my fantastical games....and "I'm happy"!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Ok.?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>Eduard
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Eduard,
>>>>>>>>>>>>Hi Mark,
>>>>>>>>>>>>I think that Eduard discovering about weak points or "bad moves" can be very
>>>>>>>>>>>>helpful for the chess programs developers community because they can learn the
>>>>>>>>>>>>lesson and fix the weak points of the programs, like in this case Shredder.
>>>>>>>>>>>>So I think that the contribution of Eduard is welcome as a "tester" of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>computer creatures.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>The programs have the weaknesses at the time controls he is playing at, but so
>>>>>>>>>>>what, this is not news to any programmer.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>He is playing tricks, do it over the board at 40/2 under tournament conditions.
>>>>>>>>>>>He can't do it, unless he knows the programs book, but if you change the way the
>>>>>>>>>>>program played a slight bit he would be lost again. For Eduard to win, he must
>>>>>>>>>>>expolit the computer openness.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>Have Eduard play Crafty on ICC, and win a match, because Crafty will not lose to
>>>>>>>>>>>this crap in match play.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>Keep up the good work Eduard.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Hi!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>See this posting for You and say your opinion, Ok!!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I play no Online-Chess in CCC - Why? But play "live" !
>>>>>>>>>>Here my posting for You:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>"In ICC on-line chess I do not know myself yet out. Those are for me in
>>>>>>>>>>addition, no normal play conditions. I would play however very gladly a " duel "
>>>>>>>>>>against GM, on level lightning 5 ', 24 portions and on lightning 30 ', 10
>>>>>>>>>>portions. That also almost folded it in January 2001, should in the region
>>>>>>>>>>Stuttgart take place. I had a sponsor at that time already for it, and a German
>>>>>>>>>>computer journal offered likewise a money on (GM does not play if he no cash for
>>>>>>>>>>it receives!). I called the magazine (so they wanted to have it) accurate date
>>>>>>>>>>and place, and was adjusted to it had to be played. The responsible of that
>>>>>>>>>>magazine however did not want to accept my conditions (" that is too easily for
>>>>>>>>>>me like that ", said it). My condition was: 14 days before the match I should
>>>>>>>>>>have the original CD including book and program! The program can learn or? -)
>>>>>>>>>>One offered with the following conditions (eMail I have still, think I):
>>>>>>>>>>1. Another place (700 km away from me)
>>>>>>>>>>2. the program version I may not know
>>>>>>>>>>3. the initialization book would be likewise prepared
>>>>>>>>>>4. GM wanted the magazine to place
>>>>>>>>>>5. I may some hours at the PC practice, more not I rejected in such a way.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>I wanted to play " only " against an available PC version including book. Also
>>>>>>>>>>the place specified by me was ok one, because it would have become a " public
>>>>>>>>>>event ". At the place which I had suggested, took place "maemlich" a large open
>>>>>>>>>>- one of the largest open of Germany! Who there too had cowardly been? I am safe
>>>>>>>>>>that I in the PC duel against of GM (or IN) good chances would have had to win,
>>>>>>>>>>because I was very well "drauf". Unfortunate that it did not fold.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Correction:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>1. It should be obviously a Computer duell
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>2. (" that is too easily for me like that ", said it) - - > that is not a
>>>>>>>>>>quotation from eMail separates only summarized words in a general manner! It
>>>>>>>>>>concerned it that I not too easily to have should with killer courses!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>3. I already knew the program, however I was not allowed to know the version
>>>>>>>>>>number of the program!
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>4. " my schedule " (January 2001) did not fit the magazine, therefore the match
>>>>>>>>>>should take place elsewhere and in former times (to training I would have then
>>>>>>>>>>however no time had).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>Eduard Nemeth
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Training....Just jump online a play Crafty some games, remember you said its
>>>>>>>>>easy, I say its hard....so prove it when you do not control the program then win
>>>>>>>>>a match....I say you can't and/or won't do it. You know the outcome as well as
>>>>>>>>>I...Crafty wins.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I played not online-chess but I played many years in chess-club, and in the
>>>>>>>>chess-club I played "live" against human "and against computer too"!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>When I can "live" play against computer, than is this for me Ok.
>>>>>>>>and very interesting than this makes me happy - but online chess not.
>>>>>>>>You can for You online-chess play but, please let me "my chess" play. Ok.?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>How convenient for you……I sure it has nothing to do with you not being able to
>>>>>>>control the outcome of game…….What ever. I must be a profit because I knew you
>>>>>>>would refuse to back up your claims.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Best wishes,
>>>>>>>>Eduard
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Hello !
>>>>>>Why do you attack Eduard ?
>>>>>>You think games he post are somewhat fixed or manipulated ?
>>>>>>Crafty is not invicible you know, it is beatable even at blitz.
>>>>>>Best regards
>>>>>>Alexandre Côme
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Sure it is, but not by a player of his skill level when he can not control the
>>>>>outcome....THAT IS THE POINT.
>>>>
>>>>How do you know his skill level ?
>>>
>>>Because I know he is not a FM, IM, or GM. Do you know something I don't about
>>>his skill level.
>>
>>Hello Mark!
>>
>>Give me 10.000 Dollars and I play against the German Champion an match , Ok.?
>>I asked last Year an gernman national Master (!)- on telephon - for a match
>>on ten games Blitz 30'. He say me Ok. but only > 5.000 Dollars.
>>When I have 10.000 Dollas, than this match (i belive) run, and all this "live" !
>
>No not OK! What does that have to do with playing computers, you can do that for
>free...but you refuse....I wonder why?
>
>I was told to "check with Eduard", as you could prove computer's are 2100, weak,
>easy to beat or some such nonsense....I checked and got my answer.
>
>>
>>
>>Eduard
Can You with me in german speak discuss? All what I will ( wie sagt man
möchte?) say, this I can never more in english. I'm sorry.
Auf Deutsch: Kannst Du mit mir in deutsch weiter diskutieren? All das was ich zu
sagen hätte und möchte, kann ich in englisch nicht mehr ausdrücken. Es tut mir
Leid.
Eduard
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