Author: Chessfun
Date: 15:52:56 06/27/01
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On June 27, 2001 at 18:13:39, Uri Blass wrote:
>On June 27, 2001 at 16:58:26, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>More fabrications, please show a post where you were told;
>>("check with Eduard", as you could prove computer's are 2100, weak, easy to
>>beat.}
>>
>>But the fact is he does prove computers are easy to beat.
>>It was never written by Eduard nor I that he could prove computer's
>>are 2100 and you know it.
>>
>>He beats them without book, he beats them by the engines choice
>>of move and this can be done at any time control with any available program.
>>
>>I am sure you have read the recent post by Bob on where the 2100 came from, so
>>why not get off the soap box?....oh and while you at it where is my apology?.
>>
>>Sarah.
>
>1)I understand that Mark young was wrong when he accused you for the fact that
>chris carson left but his guess was a logical guess because of your behaviour.
I see/saw nothing wrong in my behavior. See below.
Further regardless of logical quess that theory has now been proved incorrect,
and as it was a theory should never have been posted.
Therefore an apology is in order.
>"Sounds like nonsense to me." are your words to chris carson when he did not
>talk like this against someone but only said general things about reasons that
>people believe in some things.
IMO Chris posted a post which was targeted at a group of persons
explaining their logic for them. In part with the statement EGO.
My nonsense statements simply defended those persons who can have
an opinion that computers are not GM's without any of the reasons
he stated.
The same reasoning he used to say why some felt computers were not GM
strength could be applied to those who held the opposite theory as I
pointed out in the following post.
>I did not find his post as a personal attack directly against somebody.
Maybe you didn't but I think others did. Aside from which if not direct
it was at a group.
>You could criticize his behaviour but I do not think that saying: "sound like
>nonsense" is the right way to criticize.
Choice or words and moods. IMO it was apt.
>Suspecting that people say things because of reasons that are not the truth is
>not illogical.
They say things because they don't bother to check properly and simply post er
what's the word....oh yes nonsense.
>2)Please stop your behaviour against Mark young.
>You are not going to get an apology by attacking him and I do not see it as
>productive.
Haha. Uri, you are entitled to your opinion but frankly I couldn't care less if
you feel it productive or not. I feel wronged, therefore I like you am entitled
to complain until IMO I have received satisfaction. Which again being blunt,
INOYB.
>More fabrications are not the right words here.
>
>Eduard did not say that computers are 2100 but other people said things that
>created the impression that computers are 2100 and that Eduard can prove it.
The very first check with Eduard post is mine to Chris;
http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?176860
I quote;
>Where is the data that supports your position that programs are not 2600? At
Have a look at any of Eduards posts.
Sarah
The other post where it comes up is;
http://www.icdchess.com/forums/1/message.shtml?176861
Again I quote;
">I am not interested in games against Crafty. Crafty may be a "2100" player
>under some circumstances. I will take Bob at his word when he talks about
>Crafty being "2100" in some positions. I am not sure it applies to other
>programs and I need proof. :)
>
>Best Regards,
>Chris Carson
Again see Eduards posts.
I recall he once posted these games at CSS also
so I'm sure he has very many of them.
Sarah."
The words were 2100 in some positions, if that creates an impression that
overall they are 2100, well then people should read more closely. Also I see
no mention of the words "weak, easy to beat." which is where the fabrication
reference is. So it is a fabrication. Aside from which he has read Bob's recent
post explaining the statement, so in fact should have dropped it.
Sarah.
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