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Subject: Re: What ever Happened to Kaissia and Ostrich?

Author: David Blackman

Date: 00:48:27 06/28/01

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On June 28, 2001 at 00:21:30, Joshua Lee wrote:

>What did the programmers involved go on to do? Are their programs available?

I did a websearch on some of the Kaissa programmers a while back and turned up
only a few computer chess history pages. If they have web pages of their own
they are hiding from the search engines well. I guess they would be in Russian
anyway. It's also worth noting that the Kaissa team would be getting quite old
now, and perhaps some of them are dead. I vaguely remember reading they had
trouble getting computer access for chess purposes in the mid 1970s. That might
not have improved until affordable micros with reasonable power reached Russia
(circa 1988?).

I think Ostrich was Monty Newborn's. He was and maybe still is Professor in the
School of Computer Science at McGill University. He doesn't seem to have his own
web page at the University. He was publishing academic papers, including some
about computer chess, until recently. I don't remember hearing about him having
a program competing anywhere since the 1980s.

I think both of these old programs were in assembly language. To run them you
would most likely need a very old computer (IBM 360 compatible mainframe for
Kaissa, was it some kind of Honeywell for Ostrich?). The programs were most
likely stored on a large deck of punched cards. I'm not sure if anyone would
have bothered to store them for such a long time after the computers were
obsolete. Think of several thousand punched cards and the space needed to store
them.



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