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Subject: Re: Adams-Pocket Fritz: 1800-1900 Elo at best

Author: Kurt Utzinger

Date: 04:25:50 07/01/01

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On July 01, 2001 at 03:35:28, Uri Blass wrote:

>On July 01, 2001 at 02:11:32, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On June 30, 2001 at 23:02:52, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On June 30, 2001 at 17:17:41, Fernando Villegas wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi:
>>>>If you look at the ganme Adams won to Pocket Fritz, you will concur that we are
>>>>facing a program that, at least in this game, left the human side to kill him as
>>>>a child. The most elemental king attack I have seen in years and nevertheles
>>>>went OK. Blacks messing around in the queen side with no idea what to do as
>>>>amads prepared the knife. Not even elemental defensives moves to prevent what
>>>>was clearly coming with the obvious machine bishop-queen in the diagonal.
>>>>Sorry, but I have a Fidelity old piece of plastic that plays better than that...
>>>>Fernando
>>>
>>>
>>>You sound surprised.  If you take a program that plays well at 1000K nodes
>>>per second, and run it on hardware where it can only search 1K nodes per
>>>second, what would you logically expect to happen?  It will play with 1/1000th
>>>the skill (or even worse).
>>
>>In my opinion the whole Pocket Fritz concept is wrong. Why not use a more pure
>>tactical program instead of SMK's Shredder that has too much knowledge to run on
>>such a low hardware.
>>Kurt
>
>I do not believe that it has too much knowledge.
>
>The problem is simply that it has not enough knowledge.
>I do not believe that shredder has more knowledge than Junior and Fritz and I
>can see it does positional mistakes that Junior or Fritz can avoid because they
>have better positional understanding.
>
>I also do not believe that a program with more knowledge should be weaker in
>tactics.
>
>The opposite.
>A program with more knowledge should be stronger in tactics because of better
>knowledge which lines to prune and which lines to extend and better order of
>moves.
>
>Uri

As far as I know a chess program normally becomes slower with more knowledge and
should therefore be weaker in tactics.
Kurt



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