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Subject: Re: legal move generator that is 20 times faster than Crafty

Author: Bruce Moreland

Date: 14:52:48 07/01/01

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On July 01, 2001 at 13:21:04, Uri Blass wrote:

>On July 01, 2001 at 12:58:40, Bruce Moreland wrote:
>
>>On July 01, 2001 at 06:44:23, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On July 01, 2001 at 05:09:45, stefan wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>see also
>>>>
>>>>http://members.tripod.com/~RyanMack/hypertech.htm
>>>
>>>If it is truth than it seems that we are going to see a progress of more than
>>>200 elo in comp-comp games only because of better software for the PIII
>>>hardware.
>>>
>>>I have not enough knowledge to understand if he is right
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>If the move generator in my own program took zero time it would increase in Elo
>>points by maybe 20 or 30, and that's probably high.
>>
>>bruce
>
>You are right that only move generation is not enough but the point is that I
>understand that the data structure helps to do everything faster.
>
>He suggests in the last 3 lines when you click on the link that the program can
>see 10,000,000 nodes per second with the evaluation function
>
>If you rememeber that nodes is only legal move because he talked about legal
>move generator then the result is more impressive.
>
>We need to wait and see if he is right.
>
>Uri

I looked at it and I think there's a good chance he's full of beans.  I don't
think he has the first clue about how to build a chess program, and I think that
he thinks that if he gets the first small part of it done perfectly, the rest
will just naturally follow.

I don't know if there is a name of this kind of thing, but I see this attitude
expressed often.  On the one hand, we have builders, on the other, we have
visionaries.  But this kind of person is neither.  You have someone who knows
nothing about a problem, but is confident that the problem is trivial and can be
easily solved (by them in particular), and when you question them about the
aspects they haven't considered and can't cope with, they blow smoke and make
promises they can't keep.

Perhaps a term for these people is "marketing".

bruce




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