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Subject: Re: One mate to solve...

Author: leonid

Date: 19:02:24 07/01/01

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On July 01, 2001 at 21:14:32, Angrim wrote:

>On July 01, 2001 at 07:48:43, leonid wrote:
>
>>Hi!
>>
>>I see that your program take well those positions. This last one was slow even
>>for my solver.
>>
>>>proved that move f3xh5 wins, 12 turns
>>
>>I am not sure what is "12 turns". Twelve moves deep?
>
>24 ply, this is the length of the win it found, which is usually not
>the shortest possible.
>
>>
>>>PN2:17137399 evals, 368084 expands, 148.10 seconds
>>
>>Yes, and still what is everage NPS for your program since we have almost
>>identical hardware? I am not sure how to read "evals" and "expands". Mine is
>>Celeron 600Mhz.
>>
>
>evals is the number of calls to the leaf node evaluator.
>expands is the number of leaf nodes which have been expanded to
>become internal nodes.
>an expansion of a node consists of generating and evaluating all
>of the positions which can be reached by a legal move from that node.
>
>
>>I don't know exactly NPS (node/per/second) for this position for shortest move,
>>since mine solved it by selective and went by brute force only as far as to be
>>sure how big is shortest move. For selective, for shortest mate, NPS was 697k
>>and for brute force (just one move below the last) was 93k. My program don't use
>>hash, this must make mine NPS somewhat higher that it should be.
>>
>>If I forget your "expand", your average is 115k. Something that still look like
>>we have close NPS numbers.
>>
>>Leonid.
>>
>
>my nps is quite low for this, because my check handling code is just a
>quick kludge to my usual movegen(check does not exist in suicide chess)
>If I was useing the movegen/makemove from crafty, I would expect
>results about 10x as fast.

Strange! I could expect NPS for Crafty for this position to be around 400k and
maximum up to 500K. If your numbers can go twice as fast, it could be the second
surprise that I saw with NPS for mates. First was when I found that Rebel have
higher NPS for brute force search that for selective, when it look for mate. I
never, ever could expected this!

Leonid.


>Angrim.



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