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Subject: Re: Can an amateur program win a world championchip ? ... An experiment !

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 04:48:13 07/02/01

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On July 02, 2001 at 05:34:51, Frank Quisinsky wrote:

>Hi there,
>
>at the moment I make a little experiment and created a webpage to this
>experiment. At the moment is the webpage only in German available.
>
>Amateure contra Profis under:
>http://amateurschach.in-trier.de/schach/cbase/experiment.htm
>
>The question is:
>Can an amateur program win a world championchip?
>
>I will here plays 20 tourneys swiss system with 16 programs and 9 rounds.
>The same programs / versions with 40 moves in 10 minutes. Furthermore, without
>tablebases (I believe this is also interesting).
>
>In the last days I play a test tournament, only to see different configurations.
>
>T-01:
>http://amateurschach.in-trier.de/dia/t-01.jpg
>http://amateurschach.in-trier.de/dia/t-01.zip (games in CBH).
>
>Crafty 18.10 with a very good result but the first 3 programs are professionals.

I believe that the answer is clearly positive.

It is a good idea to give every program the best hardware that it can use.

If Crafty can use a good alpha when it can search 7M nodes per second then it is
a good idea to give it to Crafty.
If other programs cannot use the alpha then it is not Crafty's fault.


>I think that maybe in 5% the amateurs can win the WM, but the reality is that
>maybe 0.1% amateurs can win a tournament.

The reality is that Crafty won one of the ICC tournament and ferret was one of
the winners of another ICC tournament.

Both programs are amatuers.

The reality is that Junior4.5 won one WMCCC when it was amatuer.

Uri



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