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Subject: Re: Chess Tigger Better against humans than against computers??

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 05:15:08 07/03/01

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On July 03, 2001 at 08:10:08, Mark Young wrote:

>On July 03, 2001 at 07:47:57, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On July 03, 2001 at 07:01:35, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>
>>>On July 03, 2001 at 05:47:22, Mark Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 03, 2001 at 04:37:17, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 03, 2001 at 03:33:58, Adolfo Bormida wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>According the games played, I have *only* the suspect that CT 14 maybe is more
>>>>>>strong against humans than against computer. Gambit Tiger 2 is ahead in the
>>>>>>Sweden List, but against hummans is better than Tiger??
>>>>>>It is possible??
>>>>>>
>>>>>>We can remember that Rebel Century is sure better against humans.
>>>>>
>>>>>I do not know it.
>>>>>We know nothing about the question which program is best against humans at
>>>>>tournament time control thanks to Fide that does not let computers to be rated.
>>>>>
>>>>>I suspect that Fide may be one of the reasons of the good result of programs
>>>>>against humans(Humans are more motivated to win other humans and not to win
>>>>>computers because they know their games against computers are not included for
>>>>>the rating list)
>>>>>
>>>>>This problem can be solved only if the humans get money for winning or drawing
>>>>>against computers that is eqvivalent to the rating change that they could get
>>>>>from not losing aginst the computer in fair conditions.
>>>>
>>>>You can argue about the rating change, but they are playing this tournament for
>>>>money. A win, loss, or draw counts in the standings in the tournament and prize
>>>>money. Unless my information I have is incorrect.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>And I would add also the "ego" factor that in chess players, especially at that
>>>level, is quite high indeed.
>>>In that sense being beated by a "stupid machine" can be quite frustrating...
>>
>>I do not believe that they care about it.
>>
>>I understand that most of the opponents even did not buy tiger so it seems that
>>they do not care much about the result.
>
>Then I take it some of the players did buy ChessTiger. Which players and did it
>help the result in the tournament game?

I am not sure if it is truth that some players did buy chesstiger but
I remember that people said about some players that they do not own computers or
do not own chesstiger.

Uri



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