Author: Sune Larsson
Date: 11:52:23 07/03/01
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On July 03, 2001 at 11:24:55, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On July 03, 2001 at 09:08:15, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On July 03, 2001 at 08:55:14, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On July 03, 2001 at 03:24:25, Adolfo Bormida wrote: >>> >>>>On July 03, 2001 at 02:10:32, Albert Silver wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 03, 2001 at 01:08:54, Tony Asdourian wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>CT just beat a second GM, this one rated 2550 or so. Apparently made a really >>>>>>nice sac in the process. I've always been quite impressed with Fritz6, but >>>>>>looking at what CT 14.0 and GT2 are doing reminds me of the old Novag and RISC >>>>>>2500 dedicated computers, which for their time played with attacking flair but >>>>>>were also more than just tactical monsters, they seemed to "enjoy" playing >>>>>>aggresively. It is fun to watch this new program play so well. The online >>>>>>interview with Christopher Theron he gave recently is also the most revealing >>>>>>I've read from a top programmer in quite a while. >>>>> >>>>>It's game against Rodriguez was good, but this one was really pathetic. What the >>>>>heck was Ricardi thinking when he played the opening? He fell for a fairly basic >>>>>tactic on move 7 leaving him much worse and by move 13 he's down a pawn. After >>>>>that it was just a matter of time. Really not a lot to say about it other than >>>>>it was a point for Tiger. >>>>> >>>>> Albert >>>> >>>>Hi Albert >>>>I'm not agree! Ricardi was played the oppenning not well. Then in move 13th. He >>>>sac a pawn for some compensation according Ricardi's comments after the game 1) >>>>Can castling 2)Use the Open c file. If you can see the evaluation 12..., Ne7 is >>>>the second choice at ply 14 according ChessTiger. I think when you say "this one >>>>was really pathetic" you are using a very strong word and you no have respect >>>>for a 2550 GM! (who beat Karpov last year). Can you be sure than you can beat >>>>the "patetic Ricardi" after move 13? >>>> >>>>No offense, not missunderstand me. English is not my native language and only >>>>give my view. >>>> >>>>Regards, Adolfo >>> >>>Ricardi isn't a very good computer opponent. Against Crafty on ICC, he has >>>won 23, lost 129, drawn 16. >> >>It means almost 20% >> >>What is the time control of these games? >> >> Against scrappy he has lost 2 but that is all he >>>has played. Other GMs do much better than that. >> >>What is the score of Crafty and Scrappy against GM's at standard time control at >>the same time that Ricardi got the +23 -129 =16? >> >>Uri > > >Crafty has done well at longer time controls. But again, because most GM >players prefer to play "real chess" rather than "anti-computer chess" against >it. I am sure Ricardi could do better, _if_ he was willing to change his style >to avoid the strengths of the computer. See my response to Dan to see what I >mean... Ok, another aspect is that playing your "normal chess" or as you say, "real chess" aginst a top program, opens up real good options for training and gives you a tremendous challenge. I find those possibilities more interesting than repeated "anti-computer" strategies. Though the latter would fall into the category "computer weaknesses" and might serve as study material for the programmers to do list. Sune
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