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Subject: Re: ChessTiger Beats GM Again, Takes 4 Point lead, TPR 2725 Elo!!

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 21:41:43 07/03/01

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On July 03, 2001 at 09:06:03, Mark Young wrote:

>On July 03, 2001 at 08:51:27, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On July 03, 2001 at 03:29:44, Tanya Deborah wrote:
>>
>>>On July 03, 2001 at 03:01:54, Mark Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 03, 2001 at 02:54:14, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Hi Mark,
>>>>>I have only a comment about it :
>>>>>Amazing!
>>>>>
>>>>>Regards.
>>>>
>>>>No not for some of us here? Chris, others, and me...the silent is deafening.
>>>
>>>
>>>Incredible result for Chess Tiger beating 2 GM´s in a row!!
>>>
>>>Come on guys!  The performance of Chess Tiger in this tournament is not a IM
>>>strenght,  is clearly a GM performance!!!
>>>
>>>Congratulations for Chris!
>>>
>>>
>>>Best Regards
>>>Tanya.D
>>
>>
>>Sure it is.  And it will continue to be so until the humans stop with the
>>dumb (against computer) openings.  I've said that many times before.  If the
>>humans play "normal chess" against the computer, they are going to have _great_
>>difficulty.  If they play the opponent rather than playing the board, things
>>won't look so great.  But until they start...
>
>Why don't they play opponent?
>
>Are they players unwilling to play anti-computer chess?
>
>Are they unable to play anti-computer chess? (don't know how, or chesstiger is
>not allowing them)


I gave the reasons in a response to Dan earlier.

Simply stated:

human gm players _know_ they will never face a computer in a rated FIDE
event.  Since it is explicitly not allowed by recent FIDE rule changes.
Therefore preparing for a computer is a poor use of time when they have to
contend with Kasparov, Kramnik, Shirov, etc.

Until computers can play in real FIDE events, they won't be taken seriously
as a GM will not be willing to commit the necessary time to study them and
learn the specific weaknesses most programs have.

If you want to see GMs take notice, start allowing computers into FIDE events,
and allow the computers to actually _win_ the cash prizes.  That will get
attention, and quickly.



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