Author: Chessfun
Date: 14:08:22 07/04/01
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On July 04, 2001 at 10:25:09, Wayne Lowrance wrote: >On July 03, 2001 at 23:28:21, Chessfun wrote: > >>On July 03, 2001 at 19:44:34, Wayne Lowrance wrote: >> >>>On July 03, 2001 at 16:12:12, Jorge wrote: >>> >>>>Even a tiger can get tired at times.. :) >>>> >>>>jorge >>> >>>Dang it, I have been biting my tongue from this result. For years now I have >>>been reading about Fritz being given unfair treatment. I have _always_ doubted >>>it. Now I have some reservations ! I am not and cannot accuse directly anyone or >>>ogranization in this regard. I am expressing puzzlement and beginning to wonder >>>!. >> >> >>How does this result suggest in any way shape of form, previous results were in >>any way tainted?. >> >> >>>When Fritz wnet 5/0 against Junior in last games (deep of course) I was starting >>>to think and wonder, but then it wore off. Now this ! Darn it, I know these >>>programs are very close and maybe 40 games is not enough ( I know you stat >>>people are going to jump all over me on stat's). >>> >>>But I do not believe either of these programs should not be able to win 5 games >>>in a row. >> >>Why not? we have seen it hundreds of times in the past. >>Did you ask this question when Deep Fritz played Junior 6a and got off to a bad >>start? >> >>>I do not have the energy and stanima to check all forty of the games but I would >>>like to see someone compile a win-loss-draw on all forty games by opening to >>>see the breakdown. Just curious ! >> >>Oh you have no energy or stamina, but make ridiculous statements...i see. >> >>> >>>Wayne >>> >>>I have deep fritz and Tigers. I play them on coorespondence chess servers. I >>>play them on fast time control servers for a long time now. I have never seen >>>either program roll off five games in a row. >> >>And how many games at tournament times have you played on two computers?. >> >>>I really enjoy my many programs and I don't like this negativism that is >>>starting to grow like cancer in my mind about fairness and equal treatment. >> >>You also enjoy, like others apparently posting what's my word...agh yes >>nonsense. >> >>>I apoligize if anyone is offended, not intending to do that. >> >>Then you should have kept quiet. !! >> >>Sarah. > >Okey Sarah, I guess your right. All your comments were okey and taken well with >me except the part "hundreds of times" I have been reading posts here several >times a day for many years, gosh, I dont know how many, but for a long time. I >do not think there have been hundreds of results like this, between two programs >of equal playing strength. I apologize. It was an off the cuff number. But we have seen it a lot. >You know Sarah, it's not so much the 5/0 run that bothered me (past tense) it's >the timing of it that does coupled with the fact the CT is equal in strength >_and_ the same last ditch save by fritz against (deep Jr another program pier) >under identical match timing. The Deep Junior match was run by Enrique this match by the SSDF. So I see no reason to associate the two. And as you say they are about equal in strength that is what the final result reflects. Actually I would have liked Tiger to had won by 4 or so as then maybe Gambit 2.0 would be rated #1 which would be similar to my own list. >You could admit that the question at least does pop into your head, maybe just >in passing, but it is there. Actually the complete honest truth is NO it never entered my head. Sarah.
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