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Subject: Re: Are Anti-Computer Chess Strategies always possible?

Author: Mogens Larsen

Date: 01:54:02 07/06/01

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On July 06, 2001 at 00:18:54, odell hall wrote:

>If i am not mistaken didn't roman just lose a two game match to shredder at the
>time control of 30 5, what evidence can you produce which says if humans have
>more time they win??? All the 40/2 games we have seen in the last threee years,
>does not prove that point. IN fact we have seen that even on hardware that is
>barely decent tiger has performed on the level of 2700 elo. Can you show me one
>bad result of a computer at standard time controls??? If you cannot then all you
>have is conjecture vs our facts and hard data. Even century 1 performed at 2552
>over a period of many games, show me the results where grandmasters have gotten
>the best of the computers, do you have even one result????

Bob already explained why timecontrols alone don't tell the complete story. The
other aspect is the incentives to try and harness computer programs. I, for one,
can't see what those would be. The only major carrot is money as far as I can
tell and since it's not the primary source of income the effort limited IMO. In
general the games against computer programs are few and far between. Why devote
a lot of time to that?

The GM strength discussion is a little strange in the sense that some in the
computer community thinks of it as a competition, ie. beating GMs regularly
proving strength. Unfortunately, the competitor (your average run of the mill
GM) hasn't got a clue about the "contest", so he/she generally ignores them
altogether. And since one is standing virtually still and all the programs
moving forward, there comes a point of catching up. However, this fact will not
prove anything about strength IMO. It's like running against Maurice Greene when
he's tying his shoes with his back to the track.

Mogens.



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