Author: Chessfun
Date: 07:38:58 07/06/01
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On July 06, 2001 at 05:01:13, odell hall wrote: >On July 06, 2001 at 04:54:02, Mogens Larsen wrote: > >>On July 06, 2001 at 00:18:54, odell hall wrote: >> >>>If i am not mistaken didn't roman just lose a two game match to shredder at the >>>time control of 30 5, what evidence can you produce which says if humans have >>>more time they win??? All the 40/2 games we have seen in the last threee years, >>>does not prove that point. IN fact we have seen that even on hardware that is >>>barely decent tiger has performed on the level of 2700 elo. Can you show me one >>>bad result of a computer at standard time controls??? If you cannot then all you >>>have is conjecture vs our facts and hard data. Even century 1 performed at 2552 >>>over a period of many games, show me the results where grandmasters have gotten >>>the best of the computers, do you have even one result???? >> >>Bob already explained why timecontrols alone don't tell the complete story. The >>other aspect is the incentives to try and harness computer programs. I, for one, >>can't see what those would be. The only major carrot is money as far as I can >>tell and since it's not the primary source of income the effort limited IMO. In >>general the games against computer programs are few and far between. Why devote >>a lot of time to that? >> >>The GM strength discussion is a little strange in the sense that some in the >>computer community thinks of it as a competition, ie. beating GMs regularly >>proving strength. Unfortunately, the competitor (your average run of the mill >>GM) hasn't got a clue about the "contest", so he/she generally ignores them >>altogether. And since one is standing virtually still and all the programs >>moving forward, there comes a point of catching up. However, this fact will not >>prove anything about strength IMO. It's like running against Maurice Greene when >>he's tying his shoes with his back to the track. >> >>Mogens. > > >you and bob are both full of shit, bacause Ed Shoeder did offer a money >incentive during the grandmaster challenge, go to the rebel home page Off with his head.
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