Author: odell hall
Date: 00:48:33 07/07/01
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On July 07, 2001 at 03:08:31, allan johnson wrote: >On July 07, 2001 at 02:52:42, odell hall wrote: > >>On July 06, 2001 at 20:36:38, Slater Wold wrote: >> >>>On July 06, 2001 at 20:27:16, odell hall wrote: >>> >>>>On July 06, 2001 at 20:16:46, Eduard Nemeth wrote: >>>> >>>>>On July 06, 2001 at 20:10:49, Joshua Lee wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>How strong are Computers at Positional Play? >>>>> >>>>>I think that I'm better (DWZ 2099, German Elo)! >>>>> >>>>>Eduard >>>> >>>> You may be stronger positionally, but it means absolutely nothing if you cannot >>>>defeat the machine. I do believe the object of chess is to win the gazme? >>> >>>I take it you have not seen Eduard's posts where he has defeated many commercial >>>programs more than once. >>> >>>Everyone knows, if chess programs were positional skilled as they are tactical, >>>we probably wouldn't have the "are computers GM strength" questions flying >>>around here all the time. >>> >>>And that is how Eduard consistantly defeats them, gets them into a position were >>>it is too difficult for them to figure out what's REALLY going on. >>> >>> >>>Slate >> >> >> >> Sorry Slate >> >> I am too skeptical to take some one's word for it, if the game was not played >>in public i don't believe it. Anyone can say they beat a program, how can i >>verify that it is true?? It's funny you are always hearing people say they beat >>this or that program, yet in all the public games Grandmaster and international >>masters are losing, even on icc the computers when most of the time. >Odell > What about a situation where the player restricts the opening to 3 or 4 >opening lines and plays it over and over eventually eliminating his/her mistakes >and in doing so finding the winning line.Is this a legitimate win against the >computer? That's what I do.Mind you I often forget some lines of play and then >get slaughtered but I'm sure stronger players can master this technique. > Of course such a technique has its limitations nonetheless it is still >legitimate in my mind. >Al yes, i agree that it is legitamate, humans do the same thing with each other, they improve on a inferior line.
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