Author: Eduard Nemeth
Date: 10:18:36 07/07/01
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On July 07, 2001 at 13:11:48, Eduard Nemeth wrote:
>On July 07, 2001 at 09:44:08, Martin Müller wrote:
>
>>Hi all,
>>
>>It is quite sad to see a famous program as DJ7 to loose that _way_. Not the loss
>>is important. But how it looses. The evalutaion differed up to 3 or more pawns
>>against several reputated programs. It makes me think that the evaluation of the
>>program is not quite correct. Just see that:
>>
>>{\rtf1\ansi\deff0{\fonttbl{\f0\froman FigurineCB AriesSP;}{\f1\fnil
>>DiagramTTFritz;}}{\info{\author
>>Müller,Martin}{\creatim\yr2001\mo7\dy7\hr15\min38}}\fs20 {\pard \ql {\b \fs24
>>(455) Deep Shredder,G - Deep Junior 7 [E48]\par}{\plain \fs20 Level=Blitz:60'.
>>Z\'FCrich, 07.07.2001\par}}{\qj {\b {\plain \fs20 716MB, j7book.ctg. LINKS
>> }1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e3 c5 5.Bd3 Nc6 6.Nge2 cxd4 7.exd4 d5 8.cxd5 Nxd5
>>9.0\'960 0\'960 10.Nxd5 Qxd5 11.a3 Be7 12.Be3 Rd8 13.Nc3 Qd7 {\plain \fs20
>>0.10/16 2:34 }14.Qc2 Nxd4 {\plain \fs20 0.33/18 1:47 }15.Bxh7+ Kh8 {\plain
>>\fs20 0.37/19 1:58 }16.Bxd4 Qxd4 {\plain \fs20 0.48/17 51 }17.Rad1 Qh4
>>{\plain \fs20 0.43/17 2:10 }18.Be4 Bd7 {\plain \fs20 0.52/17 2:16 }19.Rd3
>>e5 {\plain \fs20 0.00/17 5 }20.Bxb7 Rab8 {\plain \fs20 0.36/15 49 }21.Be4
>>g6 {\plain \fs20 0.39/16 1:25 }22.b4 Be6 {\plain \fs20 0.44/16 2:00
>>}23.Nd5 Bd6 {\plain \fs20 0.52/14 1:08 }24.Rfd1 Rdc8 {\plain \fs20 0.57/16
>>2:34 }25.Qe2 Kg7 {\plain \fs20 0.72/16 1:50 }26.g3 Qh8 {\plain \fs20
>>0.87/16 40 }27.Qe3 Bg4 {\plain \fs20 1.08/16 3:24 }28.Re1 Bh3 {\plain \fs20
>> 1.24/17 1:39 }29.Qxa7 Qf8 {\plain \fs20 1.30/17 1:52 }30.Qe3 Rd8 {\plain
>>\fs20 1.29/16 1:55 }31.Red1 Qe8 {\plain \fs20 1.30/16 1:30 }32.Bf3 Qe6
>>{\plain \fs20 1.40/16 55 }33.Nc3 Bc7 {\plain \fs20 1.11/16 48 }34.Rxd8
>>Bxd8 {\plain \fs20 0.00/18 5 }35.Nd5 Qf5 {\plain \fs20 1.37/18 2:36 }36.a4
>>Bg5 {\plain \fs20 1.42/17 2:34 }37.Qe2 Rc8 {\plain \fs20 1.50/17 1:01
>>}38.a5 Rc2 {\plain \fs20 1.98/18 5 }39.Ne3 Bxe3 {\plain \fs20 0.00/19 5
>>}40.Qxe3 Ra2 {\plain \fs20 0.00/18 5 }41.Bd5 Ra4 {\plain \fs20 0.00/18 5
>>}42.Qc3 Qh5 {\plain \fs20 2.07/16 10 }43.Re1 Qf5 {\plain \fs20 0.00/18 6
>>}44.Bb3 Ra3 {\plain \fs20 2.27/17 41 }45.Qb2 Qf3 {\plain \fs20 2.40/18 3:06
>> }46.Qxe5+ Qf6 {\plain \fs20 #1/20 5 }47.Qxf6+ Kxf6 {\plain \fs20 #1/21 6
>>}48.Bd5 Bd7 {\plain \fs20 2.48/21 5 }49.f4 Bb5 {\plain \fs20 2.32/17 30
>>}50.Rc1 Ke7 {\plain \fs20 2.68/18 26 }51.Kf2 Ra4 {\plain \fs20 2.37/17 43
>>}52.Re1+ Kf6 {\plain \fs20 2.37/18 44 }53.Rb1 Ke7 {\plain \fs20 0.00/21 5
>>}54.Ke3 f6 {\plain \fs20 2.69/18 1:27 }55.Kd4 Kd6 {\plain \fs20 2.80/21 5
>>}56.Bf7 g5 {\plain \fs20 2.62/17 33 }57.h4 gxh4 {\plain \fs20 2.62/16 29
>>}58.gxh4 Ra3 {\plain \fs20 0.00/21 5 }59.Bb3 Bd7 {\plain \fs20 0.00/21 5
>>}60.h5 Bf5 {\plain \fs20 3.19/21 5 }61.Rb2 Kc7 {\plain \fs20 0.00/20 5
>>}62.h6 Kb8 {\plain \fs20 3.54/18 1:00 }63.Bd5 Kc7 {\plain \fs20 0.00/19 5
>>}64.Rb3 Ra1 {\plain \fs20 0.00/21 5 }65.Rc3+ Kb8{\plain \fs20 4.40/18 3 }
>>1\'960}\par \par}\par}
>>
>>Deep Shredder,G - Deep Junior 7 [E48]
>>Level=Blitz:60'. Zürich, 07.07.2001
>>
>> 716MB, j7book.ctg. LINKS
>> 1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e3 c5 5.Bd3 Nc6 6.Nge2 cxd4 7.exd4 d5 8.cxd5 Nxd5
>>9.0-0 0-0 10.Nxd5 Qxd5 11.a3 Be7 12.Be3 Rd8 13.Nc3 Qd7 0.10/16 2:34 14.Qc2
>>Nxd4 0.33/18 1:47 15.Bxh7+ Kh8 0.37/19 1:58 16.Bxd4 Qxd4 0.48/17 51
>>17.Rad1 Qh4 0.43/17 2:10 18.Be4 Bd7 0.52/17 2:16 19.Rd3 e5 0.00/17 5
>>20.Bxb7 Rab8 0.36/15 49 21.Be4 g6 0.39/16 1:25 22.b4 Be6 0.44/16 2:00
>>23.Nd5 Bd6 0.52/14 1:08 24.Rfd1 Rdc8 0.57/16 2:34 25.Qe2 Kg7 0.72/16
>>1:50 26.g3 Qh8 0.87/16 40 27.Qe3 Bg4 1.08/16 3:24 28.Re1 Bh3 1.24/17
>>1:39 29.Qxa7 Qf8 1.30/17 1:52 30.Qe3 Rd8 1.29/16 1:55 31.Red1 Qe8
>>1.30/16 1:30 32.Bf3 Qe6 1.40/16 55 33.Nc3 Bc7 1.11/16 48 34.Rxd8 Bxd8
>>0.00/18 5 35.Nd5 Qf5 1.37/18 2:36 36.a4 Bg5 1.42/17 2:34 37.Qe2 Rc8
>>1.50/17 1:01 38.a5 Rc2 1.98/18 5 39.Ne3 Bxe3 0.00/19 5 40.Qxe3 Ra2
>>0.00/18 5 41.Bd5 Ra4 0.00/18 5 42.Qc3 Qh5 2.07/16 10 43.Re1 Qf5 0.00/18
>> 6 44.Bb3 Ra3 2.27/17 41 45.Qb2 Qf3 2.40/18 3:06 46.Qxe5+ Qf6 #1/20 5
>>47.Qxf6+ Kxf6 #1/21 6 48.Bd5 Bd7 2.48/21 5 49.f4 Bb5 2.32/17 30 50.Rc1
>>Ke7 2.68/18 26 51.Kf2 Ra4 2.37/17 43 52.Re1+ Kf6 2.37/18 44 53.Rb1 Ke7
>>0.00/21 5 54.Ke3 f6 2.69/18 1:27 55.Kd4 Kd6 2.80/21 5 56.Bf7 g5 2.62/17
>> 33 57.h4 gxh4 2.62/16 29 58.gxh4 Ra3 0.00/21 5 59.Bb3 Bd7 0.00/21 5
>>60.h5 Bf5 3.19/21 5 61.Rb2 Kc7 0.00/20 5 62.h6 Kb8 3.54/18 1:00 63.Bd5
>>Kc7 0.00/19 5 64.Rb3 Ra1 0.00/21 5 65.Rc3+ Kb8 4.40/18 3 1-0
>>
>>Or
>>
>>Century 3 viz Deep Junior 7
>>
>>1.d4 Nf6 2.c4 e6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.e3 c5 5.Bd3 Nc6 6.Ng-e2 cxd4 7.exd4 d5 8.cxd5 Nxd5
>>9.O-O O-O 10.Nxd5 Qxd5 11.a3 Be7 12.Be3 Rd8 13.Nc3 Qd7 14.Qc2 Nxd4 15.Bxh7+ Kh8
>>16.Bxd4 Qxd4 17.Ra-d1 Qh4 18.Be4 Bd7 19.Rd3 e5 20.Bxb7 Ra-b8 21.Be4 g6 22.b4 Be6
>>23.Nd5 Bd6 24.Rf-d1 Rd-c8 25.Qe2 Kg7 26.g3 Qh8 27.Qe3 Bg4 28.Re1 Bh3 29.Qxa7 Qf8
>>30.Qe3 Rc-d8 31.Re-d1 Qe8 32.Bf3 Qe6 33.Nc3 Bc7 34.Rd3xd8 Bxd8 35.Nd5 Qf5 36.a4
>>Bg5 37.Qe2 Rc8 38.a5 Rc2 39.Ne3 Bxe3 40.Qxe3 Ra2 41.Bd5 Ra4 42.Qc3 Qh5 43.Re1
>>Qf5 44.Bb3 Ra3 45.Qb2 Qf3 46.Qxe5+ Qf6 47.Qxf6+ Kxf6 48.Bd5 Bd7 49.f4 Bb5 50.Rc1
>>Ke7 51.Kf2 Ra4 52.Re1+ Kf6 53.Rb1 Ke7 54.Ke3 f6 55.Kd4 Kd6 56.Bf7 g5 57.h4 gxh4
>>58.gxh4 Ra3 59.Bb3 Bd7 60.h5 Bf5 61.Rb2 Kc7 62.h6 Kb8 63.Bd5 Kc7 64.Rb3 Ra1
>>65.Rc3+ Kb8 66.Rc6 Resigns
>>
>>
>>Century 3 on a mûch slower 1 processor computer.
>>
>>
>>DJ7 does not see the problems it seems. What is wrong with DJ7?
>>
>>Regards
>>Martin
>
>Hello all!
>
>(I play too by this tournament with Nimzo 8x)
>
>I cannot some moves from Dj7 understand!
>
>In first game against Century x, was the theoretical move 12.e4 an "bad move".
>Stronger for withe is 12.Ne4! After 12.e4 e5! have black a better chance!
>
>In game 2 I can with all my programs move 18...Bd7? not find! It was a bad move
>too! Better was 18...f5 or Bd6, or not?
>
>Have somebody Dj7 and can post a analysis by Dj7 in this position:
>
>[D]r1br3k/pp2bpp1/4p3/8/4B2q/P1N5/1PQ2PPP/3R1RK1 b - - 0 18
>
>Thanks,
>Eduard
Here the notation from Round 1, Dj7(2x1GHz) - Century 3x (celeron 525MHz):
1.d4 Nf6 2.Nf3 d5 3.c4 e6 4.Nc3 Nb-d7 5.e3 c6 6.Qc2 Bd6 7.Bd3 O-O 8.O-O dxc4
9.Bxc4 b5 10.Be2 Bb7 11.Rd1 Qb8 12.e4 e5 13.Bg5 Re8 14.dxe5 Bxe5 15.Nxe5 Qxe5
16.Be3 b4 17.Na4 Qxe4 18.Bd3 Qe7 19.Ra-c1 Ne5 20.Bf5 Bc8 21.h3 Bxf5 22.Qxf5 g6
23.Qc2 Nd5 24.Bh6 Qh4 25.Qd2 f6 26.Rxc6 Nf4 27.Bxf4 Nxc6 28.Qd5+ Kg7 29.Qd7+ Kh8
30.Bg3 Qc4 31.b3 Qe6 32.Qb7 Ra-d8 33.Rc1 Rd-c8 34.Nc5 Qe7 35.Nd7 Re-d8 36.Rd1
Nb8 37.Bxb8 Rcxb8 38.Qxa7 Rb-a8 39.Qb7 Rxa2 40.Qc7 Rd-a8 41.Qc5 Qxc5 42.Nxc5 Rc2
43.Rd5 Rc3 44.Kh2 f5 45.f3 Kg8 46.Kg3 Ra5 47.Rd8+ Kf7 48.Nd3 Rxb3 49.Rd4 Rb5
50.h4 Rb1 51.Rd7+ Ke6 52.Rxh7 Rd1 53.Nf4+ Kf6 54.Rh8 Rb6
Black wins.
Eduard
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