Author: odell hall
Date: 06:17:10 07/08/01
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On July 06, 2001 at 10:38:58, Chessfun wrote: >On July 06, 2001 at 05:01:13, odell hall wrote: > >>On July 06, 2001 at 04:54:02, Mogens Larsen wrote: >> >>>On July 06, 2001 at 00:18:54, odell hall wrote: >>> >>>>If i am not mistaken didn't roman just lose a two game match to shredder at the >>>>time control of 30 5, what evidence can you produce which says if humans have >>>>more time they win??? All the 40/2 games we have seen in the last threee years, >>>>does not prove that point. IN fact we have seen that even on hardware that is >>>>barely decent tiger has performed on the level of 2700 elo. Can you show me one >>>>bad result of a computer at standard time controls??? If you cannot then all you >>>>have is conjecture vs our facts and hard data. Even century 1 performed at 2552 >>>>over a period of many games, show me the results where grandmasters have gotten >>>>the best of the computers, do you have even one result???? >>> >>>Bob already explained why timecontrols alone don't tell the complete story. The >>>other aspect is the incentives to try and harness computer programs. I, for one, >>>can't see what those would be. The only major carrot is money as far as I can >>>tell and since it's not the primary source of income the effort limited IMO. In >>>general the games against computer programs are few and far between. Why devote >>>a lot of time to that? >>> >>>The GM strength discussion is a little strange in the sense that some in the >>>computer community thinks of it as a competition, ie. beating GMs regularly >>>proving strength. Unfortunately, the competitor (your average run of the mill >>>GM) hasn't got a clue about the "contest", so he/she generally ignores them >>>altogether. And since one is standing virtually still and all the programs >>>moving forward, there comes a point of catching up. However, this fact will not >>>prove anything about strength IMO. It's like running against Maurice Greene when >>>he's tying his shoes with his back to the track. >>> >>>Mogens. >> >> >>you and bob are both full of shit, bacause Ed Shoeder did offer a money >>incentive during the grandmaster challenge, go to the rebel home page > >Off with his head. Sarah What is your major malfunction????
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