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Subject: Re: Spitfire(Gambit 2.0) Highest rated comp. on ICC

Author: Curtis Williams

Date: 14:05:56 07/08/01

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On July 08, 2001 at 00:53:11, Bruce Moreland wrote:

>On July 08, 2001 at 00:07:12, Curtis Williams wrote:
>
>>2833 KillerMachi(C) 3451 JRLOK(GM)      3275 KillerMachi(C)
>>2829 Crawly(C)      3443 SpitFire(C)    3135 Weezer(C)
>>2811 SandmanJr(C)   3429 scrappy(C)     3082 Foe-hammer(C)
>>2738 EvilSilicon(C) 3375 Netsurfer(C)   3022 CraftyWiz(C)
>>2726 Colossus(C)    3363 ChessBeta(C)   2970 Trojanx(C)
>>2718 Aegis(C)       3314 RebelRex(C)    2954 Colossus(C)
>>2713 ShredderX(C)   3309 L-Aronian(GM)  2947 diep(C)
>>2711 Good-Boy(C)    3297 KillerMachi(C) 2935 Good-Boy(C)
>>2703 OzsO(C)        3292 lorenzo(GM)    2902 heatstroke(C)
>>2699 heatstroke(C)  3225 garompon(GM)   2902 valheru(C)
>>2696 kooloo(C)      3222 valheru(C)     2878 Hawkeye(GM)
>>2686 valheru(C)     3210 Weezer(C)      2871 Aegis(C)
>>2676 Spendrups(C)   3201 bonvivant      2867 Rabin(IM)
>>2669 BountyHunte(C) 3197 junior(GM)     2858 PIECEOFFCHI(C)
>>2651 Wansi(C)       3187 Dreev(GM)      2833 LarryC(GM)
>>2643 JRLOK(GM)      3180 Hawkeye(GM)    2827 giant-c(C)
>>2641 JrChess        3169 swimmer(C)     2823 Wansi(C)
>>2636 BrazilianMa(C) 3152 jeleen(GM)     2811 Gela(GM)
>>2625 Foe-hammer(C)  3144 NewZorro(GM)   2793 Crawly(C)
>>2622 Talmoves(C)    3141 Irina(GM)      2790 troii(C)
>>2620 Eyssa(C)       3141 YearOfTheR(FM) 2780 Tiger14(C)
>>2611 Deveraux(C)    3140 mikenty(IM)    2779 Lohman(C)
>>Supe
>
>There's no text so I don't know what you are trying to imply by this.  If you
>are trying to say that Tiger is strong, Tiger is strong.  However, there are
>some facts about the account that should be made known:

There was no text needed, I was simply posting a fact and that is that Spitfire
IS the number computer account on ICC.  Whether the rating is achieved through
your suggested terms or through existing practices it still remains a fact.
>
>1) It only plays humans.
>2) It only plays people rated in excess of almost 3100.

Mr. Moreland it is a general practice of all computer accounts to play opponents
rated within 350-400 points of there rating.  It only makes sense because
there's no gain for playing someone out of that range.  So ask yourself if you
were 3400 what in the hell are you doing playing someone 1500?  So it's
irrational for you to suggest that.

Spitfire is currently set to play anyone within 350 points of it's rating...it's
reasonable and definitely not trolling. Spitfire was once 1800 and progressed
through the rating structure with the same formula it uses now.  So it has
achieved the 3400 rating by beating everyone in ICC in a fair manner.
>
>Basically it only plays people who are on the "best" list.  So this is yet
>another "human-only" rating pig in the mold of Scrappy, the kind that is making
>it very difficult for a program that plays a wide range of opponents to find any
>titled humans to play.

Your inflammed comments toward a simple post of progress suggest that you have a
hidden resentment towards Tiger and Crafty (programs with the ability to
interface with ICC) is it that you would like to see you program make it to
number?  Whatever the case, don't blast my post because of your jealousies.
Tune your energy into something more constructive like creating a more
competitive program and maybe it too will make it to number one on ICC.
>
>I think that approximately any good program could get that high on the list if
>it trolled for people who wanted to get punished.

Spitfire is there as a training tool for players within that range who wish to
match it.  It is ICC's policy for computers not to match humans so it is totally
the choice of humans to play these computers.  There does exist strong humans,
who seek out strong computers to inflate there rating OR are they seeking out
the strongest tool of chess available to strengthen their play?  It's up to
interpretation.  Which you have displayed with your comments and are definitely
entitled to them.  At the same time, I am entitled to mine and I will continue
to post my progress as I see fit.  So come to grips with your insecurites and
move on.

Curtis



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