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Subject: Re: Bookline to mate - end of chess ?

Author: Bertil Eklund

Date: 15:41:30 07/08/01

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On July 08, 2001 at 17:48:37, Kurt Widmann wrote:

>On July 08, 2001 at 16:28:38, Bertil Eklund wrote:
>
>>On July 08, 2001 at 14:20:26, Kurt Widmann wrote:
>>
>>>Why is the importance of opening theory so neglected by computerchess
>>>enthusiasts? I am seeing the use of booklines sometimes totally ingnored
>>>by posters of rated computer games. It is my opinion, that booklines are
>>>the most important part of a chessgame. The quality of "Book",or the "Guiding
>>>human hand" for chessprograms has a greate influence as to the outcome of
>>>a game. Every good chessplayer trys to reach a familiar position or get his
>>>oponent into a unfamiliare position not suitable for his/her style of play.
>>>The recent performance of Pocket Fritz against GM's shows a tippical
>>>exploitation of ones opponent book weakness. If Kramnik can not find a hole
>>>in the armor of Deep Fritz, it is safe to assume that he will not win
>>>the match. Therfore I am shure that Kramnik is studying DF,s book over
>>>and over again,knowing the importance of once oponents strength and
>>>weaknesses, including the all important openinglines.
>>>Why then are so few discussion on any forum about current opening theory,
>>>as to their valididy and or exploitations of them?
>>>Just curious,
>>>Kurt Widmann
>>
>>Hi!
>>
>>Kramnik are going to play (with white) Colle and/or queen-pawn openings in every
>>game where his positional understanding is superior to any program.
>>It is impossible to prepare against this for more then 2-4 moves.
>>Of course he doesn't play the latest sharp lines in sicilian defense.
>>
>>Bertil
>
>Well, I belief that Kramnik with colle b3 or c3 will not get more than
>a draw,because the remaining pawn structure is too simple for Fritzes
>25 ply or more depth search ability. His normal d4 lines are better
>than the colle.  Against e4 Kramnik may have to take his chances with black
>playing the Rue Lopez. He may "unnerve" or "outbook" Fritz with the d5 line,
>even so, he never seem to play it.

Maybee you are right but I have seen a lot of games with "Colle-structures"
where the human slowly can build up a king-attack. Of course his normal d4-lines
are (objectively) much better but also sharper and much more riscy against a
fast computer.

Do you mean Marshall (d5)? It could be very dangerous to play for more then a
draw in this variation. I don't think it is a good choice to play normal
Ruy-Lopez variations against computers because it is to complicated and often
leads to open and complicated positions. I don't know much about the
Berlin-defence and if it is the right choice against computers. I have 434
computer-games in this defence in my computer-base out of 94000 games played by
computers.

Bertil

>Kurt Widmann



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