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Subject: Re: Are Anti-Computer Chess Strategies always possible?

Author: odell hall

Date: 18:11:18 07/08/01

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On July 08, 2001 at 10:50:37, Chessfun wrote:

>On July 08, 2001 at 09:17:10, odell hall wrote:
>
>>On July 06, 2001 at 10:38:58, Chessfun wrote:
>>
>>>On July 06, 2001 at 05:01:13, odell hall wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 06, 2001 at 04:54:02, Mogens Larsen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 06, 2001 at 00:18:54, odell hall wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>If i am not mistaken didn't roman just lose a two game match to shredder at the
>>>>>>time control of 30 5, what evidence can you produce which says if humans have
>>>>>>more time they win??? All the 40/2 games we have seen in the last threee years,
>>>>>>does not prove that point. IN fact we have seen that even on hardware that is
>>>>>>barely decent tiger has performed on the level of 2700 elo. Can you show me one
>>>>>>bad result of a computer at standard time controls??? If you cannot then all you
>>>>>>have is conjecture vs our facts and hard data. Even century 1 performed at 2552
>>>>>>over a period of many games, show me the results where grandmasters have gotten
>>>>>>the best of the computers, do you have even one result????
>>>>>
>>>>>Bob already explained why timecontrols alone don't tell the complete story. The
>>>>>other aspect is the incentives to try and harness computer programs. I, for one,
>>>>>can't see what those would be. The only major carrot is money as far as I can
>>>>>tell and since it's not the primary source of income the effort limited IMO. In
>>>>>general the games against computer programs are few and far between. Why devote
>>>>>a lot of time to that?
>>>>>
>>>>>The GM strength discussion is a little strange in the sense that some in the
>>>>>computer community thinks of it as a competition, ie. beating GMs regularly
>>>>>proving strength. Unfortunately, the competitor (your average run of the mill
>>>>>GM) hasn't got a clue about the "contest", so he/she generally ignores them
>>>>>altogether. And since one is standing virtually still and all the programs
>>>>>moving forward, there comes a point of catching up. However, this fact will not
>>>>>prove anything about strength IMO. It's like running against Maurice Greene when
>>>>>he's tying his shoes with his back to the track.
>>>>>
>>>>>Mogens.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>you and bob are both full of shit, bacause Ed Shoeder did offer a money
>>>>incentive during the grandmaster challenge, go to the rebel home page
>>>
>>>Off with his head.
>>
>>
>>Sarah What is your major malfunction????
>
>
>Wow did you think of those words all on your own?.
>
>My problem is this. You wrote in reply to Mogens;
>"you and bob are both full of shit,"
>
>Therefore IMO your account should be deleted, hence the words
>"Off with his head".
>
>Do you really feel the need to use such language, can't you simply
>try to make a point without the expletive. You should try it, most
>do, and are successful.
>
>Sarah.


 You think my account should be deleted just for a slight slip of the tonque??
You are very cruel Sarah and unforgiving. After all, I have been around here for
three years don't i deserve a little break?  Actually i don't think my language
was the hardcore type of expletive you describes, it's almost fits in the
category of a common expression.



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