Author: David Dory
Date: 03:48:23 07/09/01
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> >Very well put, Uri. >I think that chess programs reached that milestone only pretty recently , thanks >to the powerful hardware advancements in micros, but mainly thanks to the >advanced software algorithms implemented in top programs. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression no one could get FIDE points (or a higher elo), by playing computers. If that's true, Uri, your argument is untrue: >>GM's can get better ranking relative to other humans by beating the machine and >>better ranking means more money so they still have motivation to win against the >>machine. I have no info on the Israeli chess team, or their practices. Choosing your opponent is interesting, but irrelevant to this discussion, IMHO. What I said was that I'd like to see the computer's playing along just like the humans in at least several major (and minor) tournaments. No special rules, no special exceptions, for either human or program. I believe with more preparation, and experience, the weaknesses inherent even in today's best chess programs will be found out. Once discovered, the humans will be all over them like white on rice, and the computer's will be sunk, until a new version (or tweak) can fix **That** one problem. Then another weakness will be found, and exploited, again and again. I see today's programs like Rhino's - they can run you over, big time, **BUT**, like the rhino, they have these little chinks in their tough hides, all over the place. Nobody will exploit those weaknesses like IM's and GM's when they really are motivated to do so. Even I (a poor woodpusher, indeed) have found weaknesses in the openings of the chess programs I have played against. If I can exploit these weakness to beat these programs (admittedly not the toughest chess programs around), then I'm absolutely sure the Masters of chess will have no problems doing the same thing, at a much more subtle level, with the top programs. After playing against some of the weaker chess programs yourself, did you find this to be true, yourself? At first, you couldn't beat them, but after you played many games, you win most of the time. Thanks for your comments, Uri and Othello. I do believe that GM's one day will have no chance against a computer of top strength - but I don't think we're there, today.
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