Author: Mark Young
Date: 04:43:32 07/09/01
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On July 08, 2001 at 23:28:08, Bruce Moreland wrote: >On July 08, 2001 at 22:06:05, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>IE let's place a bet that I can flip a coin and get 10 consecutive tails. >>I _know_ that if I build a "robot flipper" it will force you to pay off the >>bet, because if I flip enough, 10 heads _must_ eventually come up, otherwise >>the coin is not "fair". That is how a computer will get its "norms". It will >>just plug along and eventually enough humans will "break" against it in the >>same tournament and it will do well enough to pull it off. I believe _any_ >>program could do this today. >> >>I mentioned that back in the 1980's, Fidelity entered multiple machines in >>the US Open, at the same event. Some did horribly. One would invariably do >>well. That was the one you read about on the front of the package. :) > >They are all doing well in all of the events though. > >I think that you are being pushed down the Bataan penninsula, and eventually you >are going to run out of bullets and things to eat. It has to happen eventually, >since you have hardware advances killing you, at the very least. All of the >programs are doing well against humans. It's kind of silly to say that they >aren't on par. > >You need to get out of this "programs aren't GM's" thing gracefully at some >point, probably soon. You've got a bunch of people up in arms about it, and no >matter whether or not you've been right at some past point, at some future point >you will be wrong, and you will have to admit it, and all of these guys you are >arguing with will use that as an opportunity to try to make you eat shit for >about a year. I don't think Bob Hyatt is General McCarther. There shall be no return, but like all wrong arguments is shall fade away. > >bruce
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