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Subject: Re: Re : Booklines for Fritz6 & Crafty

Author: Kurt Widmann

Date: 12:35:16 07/09/01

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On July 09, 2001 at 14:06:01, Dieter Buerssner wrote:

>On July 09, 2001 at 11:14:35, Kurt Widmann wrote:
>
>>How deep do both have to search before dropping 9... Qc6?? for Bxe6! instead?
>>Fritz 6 [B02]
>>09.07.2001
>>
>>1.e4 Nf6 2.e5 Nd5 3.Nf3 d6 4.Bc4 Nb6 5.Bxf7+ Kxf7 6.Ng5+ Kg8 7.Qf3 Qe8 8.e6 g6
>>9.Nf7*  Qc6 10.Nh6+ Kg7 11.Qf7+ Kxh6 12.d3+ Kh5 13.g4+ Kh4 14.Rg1 Qb5 15.Nd2 Qa5
>>16.Qf4 Qb4 17.Qxb4 Kg5 18.Qd4 Kh4 19.Nf3+ Kh3 20.Rg3# 1-0
>>
>>Do other programs have the same proplem?
>
>Yace on AMD K6-2 475 with 35 M hash needs 75 seconds to switch to Bxe6:
>
>     nodes    time  score depth
>   4995317  26.566   1.84  9.  9...Qc6 10. Qg4 Qxc2 11. Na3 Qf5 12. Qxf5 gxf5
>                               13. Nxh8 Kxh8 14. Nb5 {190}
>  12185259  1:03.2   1.44 10-- 9...Qc6 10. Nh6+ Kg7 11. Qf7+ Kxh6 12. d4+ Kh5
>                               13. g4+ Kh4 14. Bg5+ Kxg5 15. h4+ Kxg4 16. Rg1+
>                               Kh5 17. Qf4 Qh1 18. Rxh1 g5 19. hxg5+ Kg6 {-41}
>  13822728  1:12.0   0.64 10t  9...Qc6 10. Nh6+ Kg7 11. Qf7+ Kxh6 12. d4+ Kh5
>                               13. g4+ Kh4 14. Bg5+ Kh3 15. Qf4 Qxh1+ 16. Ke2
>                               Qe1+ 17. Kxe1 Kg2 18. Qf7 Nc6 {109}
>  14275398  1:15.1   0.65 10t+ 9...Bxe6 10. Nxh8 Kxh8 11. O-O
>  16798952  1:34.4   1.73 10t  9...Bxe6 10. Nxh8 Kxh8 11. Nc3 Nc6 12. O-O Qf7
>                               13. Qe4 Bf5 14. Qf4 Bg7 {190}
>  17736647  1:42.0   1.73 10.  9...Bxe6 10. Nxh8 Kxh8 11. Nc3 Nc6 12. O-O Qf7
>                               13. Qe4 Bf5 14. Qf4 Bg7 {190}
>  22714576  2:21.1   1.64 11t  9...Bxe6 10. Nxh8 Kxh8 11. O-O Nc6 12. Qe3 Qf7
>                               13. Re1 Bxa2 14. b3 {HT} {270}
>  26133781  2:44.5   1.64 11.  9...Bxe6 10. Nxh8 Kxh8 11. O-O Nc6 12. Qe3 Qf7
>                               13. Re1 Bxa2 14. b3 {HT} {270}
>
>Yace thinks (but cannot prove) that Black gets "only" mated in the 21st move,
>when analysing from back to front:
>
>   9406323  36.321  Mat12 12.  10. Nh6+ Kg7 11. Qf7+ Kxh6 12. d3+ Kh5 13. g4+
>                               Kh4 14. Rg1 Qd5 15. Nd2 Qe5+ 16. Kf1 Nc4 17.
>                               Nf3+ Kh3 18. Nxe5 Nd2+ 19. Bxd2 dxe5 20. Qf3+
>                               Kxh2 21. Qg3# {311}
>
>Perhaps Chest or some other programs can prove this?
>
>Regards,
>Dieter

Hi Dieter,
This is a very interesting revelation. Fritz6 plays Qc6 even at a depth
of 14 ply,change of engine parameters has no affect on its fix for Qc6?
Could I try to run your Yase program under fritz,shredder or winboard?
It seems that your engine with an opening book equivalent to Fritz, could
outsearch Fritz and be a legitimate challenger for all top programs. By the way,
shredder5 finds Bxe6 in a few seconds also.
Where is the best place to download your program,is it at Dann's place?
Is it registered as a commercial product or a free demo?
Regards,
Kurt Widmann



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