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Subject: Re: Re : Booklines for Fritz6 & Crafty

Author: Mike S.

Date: 12:36:23 07/09/01

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On July 09, 2001 at 11:14:35, Kurt Widmann wrote:

>How deep do both have to search before dropping 9... Qc6?? for Bxe6! instead?

The following results are from P3/700 MHz, 32 MB Hash (or 29 MB with Crafty; see
below). I use Fritz 6 Light. It switches away from 9...Qc6? to 9...Bg7 first, at
a depth of 13/41 plies, and finds 9...Bx6 much later at the same depth:

New game - Fritz 6 Light
rnb1qbkr/ppp1pN1p/1n1pP1p1/8/8/5Q2/PPPP1PPP/RNB1K2R b KQ - 0 1

Analysis by Fritz 6 Light:

9...Qxf7-- 10.Qxf7#
  +-  (3.19)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
  +-  (#1)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
9...Bxe6! 10.Nxh8 Kxh8 11.Qxb7
  +-  (1.81)   Depth: 1/3   00:00:00
  ³  (-0.31)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
9...Bg7! 10.Nxh8 Kxh8
  ³  (-0.38)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
  ³  (-0.47)   Depth: 1/4   00:00:00
9...Qc6-- 10.Nh6+ Kg7 11.Qf7+ Kxh6 12.d3+ Kh5 13.Rg1 Qd5 14.g4+
  ³  (-0.50)   Depth: 1/7   00:00:00
  ±  (1.37)   Depth: 13/41   00:01:13  39133kN
9...Bg7! 10.Nxh8 Kxh8 11.0-0 Nc6 12.Re1 Nd4 13.Qd1 Qc6 14.Nc3
  ±  (1.34)   Depth: 13/41   00:01:13  39535kN
  -+  (-1.63)   Depth: 13/41   00:06:54  213769kN
9...Nc6!
  -+  (-1.66)   Depth: 13/41   00:08:04  248795kN
9...Bxe6!
  -+  (-1.69)   Depth: 13/41   00:08:28  259952kN
  -+  (-1.69)   Depth: 13/41   00:08:28  259952kN

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The next analysis is from the CB native version of Crafty 18.08. Unfortunately,
it switches away from 9...Bxe6 at ply 9/18 to 9...Qc6?, but comes back to Bxe6
at ply 13/39:

New game - Crafty 18.08
rnb1qbkr/ppp1pN1p/1n1pP1p1/8/8/5Q2/PPPP1PPP/RNB1K2R b KQ - 0 1

Analysis by Crafty 18.08:

9...Bxe6 10.Nxh8 Kxh8 11.Qxb7 c6 12.0-0
  -+  (-1.78)   Depth: 6/13   00:00:00
9...Nc6 10.Nxh8 Kxh8 11.Qe3 Nd5 12.Qe4 Ncb4
  -+  (-2.01)   Depth: 7/18   00:00:00
  -+  (-2.09)   Depth: 7/18   00:00:00  220kN
9...Bxe6 10.Nxh8 Bd5 11.Qg4 Kxh8 12.Nc3 Bc6 13.0-0 Kg8
  -+  (-2.14)   Depth: 7/18   00:00:00  253kN
  -+  (-2.62)   Depth: 9/18   00:00:01  597kN
9...Qc6 10.Nh6+ Kg7 11.Qf7+ Kxh6 12.d3+ Kh5 13.g4+ Kh4 14.Bg5+ Kxg5 15.h4+ Kxg4
16.Rg1+ Kh3 17.Qf4 Qg2 18.Rxg2 Kxg2 19.Qg3+ Kh1 20.Qh3+ Kg1 21.Qg4+ Kh1 22.Qh3+
  -+  (-3.02)   Depth: 9/18   00:00:09  3823kN
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 13/39   00:08:27  216650kN
9...Bxe6 10.Nxh8 Kxh8 11.Nc3 Nc6 12.d3 Na4 13.0-0 Nxc3 14.bxc3 Qf7 15.Qxf7 Bxf7
16.Rb1 Rb8
  ³  (-0.40)   Depth: 13/39   00:08:34  219729kN
  -+  (-3.01)   Depth: 13/39   00:09:26  239473kN


9...Qc6? 10.Nh6+! does this trick... difficult to expect for some programs, that
white will sac another piece. It seems, that I could still score against some
top programs with this (if their book allows that line until 5.Bxf7+ at least).

Usually, I test with this position from the line after 6...Kg6 7.Qf3. Here, I
saw that most newer programs find 7...Qe8 easily - so I thought, it's defused
(at least for my puroses; I need a quick mate line... ± mean I still lose
against the computer :o)

Noordijk - Landau [B02]
Rotterdam, 1927
[Gelenczei 1958]

[D]rnbq1b1r/ppp1p1pp/1n1p2k1/4P1N1/8/5Q2/PPPP1PPP/RNB1K2R b KQ - 0 7

8...Qe8 (Landau took the Knight...)

Regards,
M.Scheidl



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