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Subject: Re: Testposition - Tactics

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 16:17:45 07/11/01

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On July 11, 2001 at 18:59:27, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:

>On July 11, 2001 at 17:25:34, James T. Walker wrote:
>
>>Junior 7 likes Nxd5 after 5 seconds on my Athlon 900.  I holds it for over 3
>>minutes with a score of less than 1.  Junior 7 likes Nxd5 cxd5 Rxd5 but then
>>likes Nc4 Bc5 as a followup.  If I force feed it Rd8 instead of Nc4 the score
>>goes slightly over +1.  So anyway Junior 7 would play this (Nxd5) move probably
>>in blitz.
>>Jim
>
>we need a mainline.
>
>Nxd5 can be played because of 2 reasons
>  a) patzerscores
>  b) it sees the whole trick
>
>in case of a it didn't solve it. In case of b it must show
>at least next moves in mainline:
>   nxd5 cd rd5 nc4 bf1!
>
>if other moves as bf1 shown then forget it.

Junior7 does not find it for Bf1 but I am not sure if it has patzer score.
The question is if white is losing after Rf5+

I know that Amir worked a long time on the evaluation and saying patzer score
for a different evaluation is not correct.

I guess that Amir changed the evaluation of Junior because the new evaluation is
better than the previous evaluation.

Here is Junior7's analysis on a slow p200


[D]r5nr/pp3kpp/2pb4/3pn1P1/8/2N1B2B/PPP2P1P/2KRR3 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Junior 7:

1.g6+ hxg6 2.Bf1 Rxh2
  =  (-0.23)   Depth: 3   00:00:01
1.a4 Ne7
  ±  (0.85)   Depth: 3   00:00:01
1.Ne2 Ne7
  ±  (0.95)   Depth: 3   00:00:01
1.Bf5 Ne7
  ±  (0.97)   Depth: 3   00:00:01
1.Bf5 Nf3 2.Re2 Bxh2 3.Kb1
  =  (0.04)   Depth: 6   00:00:01  2kN
1.Ne4 Bb4 2.Bd2 Be7 3.Ng3 Nf3 4.Be6+ Ke8 5.Bxg8 Rxg8
  ±  (0.77)   Depth: 6   00:00:01  16kN
1.Ne4 Bb4 2.Bd2 Be7 3.Ng3 Nf3 4.Be6+ Ke8 5.Re3 Nxd2 6.Kxd2 Bxg5
  ²  (0.54)   Depth: 9   00:00:02  188kN
1.Bg2 Ne7 2.Bd4 N5g6 3.h3 Bf4+ 4.Be3 Bxe3+ 5.Rxe3
  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 9   00:00:02  200kN
1.f4 Nc4 2.Bd2 Nxd2 3.Rxd2 b5 4.Be6+ Kg6 5.Ne2
  ²  (0.68)   Depth: 9   00:00:03  323kN
1.f4 Nc4
  ²  (0.38)   Depth: 12   00:00:12  1401kN
1.Bg2 Ne7 2.Ne4 Bb4 3.Nd2 Ng4 4.c3 Nxe3 5.Rxe3 Bd6
  ²  (0.59)   Depth: 12   00:00:13  1629kN
1.Nxd5 cxd5 2.Rxd5 Nc4 3.Rf5+ Kg6 4.Bd4 Ne7 5.Re6+ Kh5 6.Rf7 Rac8 7.Bxg7 Rhe8
  ±  (0.81)   Depth: 12   00:00:29  3685kN
1.Nxd5 cxd5 2.Rxd5 Nc4 3.Rf5+ Kg6 4.Bd4 Ne7 5.Re6+ Kh5 6.Rf7 Rad8 7.Bf1 b5
8.Bxc4 bxc4 9.Rfxe7
  ±  (0.84)   Depth: 14   00:02:06  15219kN
1.Nxd5 cxd5 2.Rxd5 Nc4 3.Rf5+ Kg6 4.Bd4 Ne7 5.Re6+ Kh5 6.Rf7 Ng6 7.Bxg7 Bf4+
8.Kb1 Rhd8 9.Re4
  ±  (0.77)   Depth: 15   00:06:52  46133kN

(blass, tel-aviv 12.07.2001)

Uri



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