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Subject: Re: Junior 7

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 02:17:41 07/12/01

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On July 12, 2001 at 05:04:20, Harald Faber wrote:

>On July 12, 2001 at 03:14:00, Fabio Barrettone wrote:
>
>>>Might have been a good question for sunday, if I wouldn't have found the
>>>booklet. But feel free to repeat it there if you like... maybe we get additional
>>>comments (i.e. what the use of this option is anyway :o).
>>>
>>
>>Could be as you say, and I certainly don't suggest that the booklet of Junior is
>>wrong, but... If you let play J7 vs any other engine in a Nunn match with
>>Threshold "8000" it wins more games. A coincidence? I don't think since if you
>>switch again the threshold to the normal value the vice-versa happens. Junior
>>plays always the same move with Permanet Brain OFF and no book, so the games are
>>all the same with the same threshold, but different with different ones. I could
>>give you the pgn for the games if you don't believe me, no problem.
>>
>>Sincerely,
>>Fabio.
>
>Could you please send the games to me? The ones with -9999 and the ones with
>+8000? Thanks a lot!

I can add that it seems strange to me because I could reproduce the Nc3 mistake
of Junior with +8000.

I am interested to see one position when threshold=8000 produce different move
or different time because it seems to me that Junior ignores the threshold
parameter under game conditions.

I believe that contempt=0 is better than contempt=15 and I could not reproduce
the Nc3 mistake under the same conditions with contempt=0

Here is the analysis with contempt=0 under the exact conditions that Junior
played Nc3 on my p800.

Junior 7 - Blass,U
r1r5/pb2kpp1/4p2p/3nP3/Nq6/3Q1N2/1P3PPP/R2R2K1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Junior 7:

22.b3 Rd8
  =  (0.07)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
22.h3 Rd8
  =  (0.10)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
22.Nd4 Rd8
  =  (0.13)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
22.Qh7 Rd8
  ²  (0.27)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
22.Qh7 Nf4
  =  (-0.17)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  1kN
22.Nc3 Nxc3
  =  (-0.15)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  1kN
22.Qa3 Qxa3
  =  (-0.12)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  1kN
22.Qa3 Qxa3
  =  (-0.12)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  3kN
22.Qa3 Qxa3
  =  (-0.12)   Depth: 12   00:00:00  28kN
22.Qa3 Qxa3 23.Rxa3 Ne7 24.Nd4 Ng6 25.Re3 Rab8 26.Nc3
  =  (-0.14)   Depth: 14   00:00:01  751kN
22.Nc3 Nxc3 23.bxc3 Qxc3 24.Qd6+ Kg8 25.Nd4 a5 26.Rab1 Rab8 27.Qe7
  =  (-0.06)   Depth: 14   00:00:07  5031kN
22.Nc3 Nxc3
  ³  (-0.36)   Depth: 16   00:01:12  47752kN
22.Qa3 Qxa3 23.Rxa3 Nf4 24.Ne1 Ne2+ 25.Kh1 Rab8 26.Nc3 Nxc3 27.bxc3 a5
  =  (-0.17)   Depth: 16   00:03:31  141578kN
22.b3 Kg8 23.Qd2 a5 24.Qxb4 axb4 25.Rdc1 Nc3 26.Nd4
  =  (-0.16)   Depth: 16   00:03:42  149057kN
22.b3 Kg8 23.Qd2 Qxd2 24.Rxd2 Nf4 25.Rd7 Bc6 26.Rdd1 Bxf3 27.gxf3
  =  (-0.17)   Depth: 17   00:04:54  195656kN

(Blass, Tel-aviv 12.07.2001)

Uri



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