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Subject: Re: New URL to SSDF databases

Author: Don Dailey

Date: 10:01:27 05/04/98

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On May 04, 1998 at 08:25:35, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:

>On May 04, 1998 at 03:47:25, Ernst Walet wrote:
>
>>On May 03, 1998 at 17:09:54, Don Dailey wrote:
>>
>>>On May 03, 1998 at 16:38:56, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:
>>>
>>>>On May 03, 1998 at 12:17:37, Tony Hedlund wrote:
>
>A:
>>>>>1. We have a policy to keep it Swedish/Nordic. We don't trust foreigners
>>>>>:)).
>B:
>>>>I just hope to God this above, under 1, was a joke. But then again, the
>>>>Internet is not particularly joke-friendly due to the myriad of possible
>>>>interpretations that cannot be resolved in real time. Anyway, I consider
>>>>statement 1 xenophobic, counter-multicultural and, generally, offensive
>>>>unless cleared up by the poster.
>>>>Djordje.
>
>C:
>>>Look at the glyphs after the post, the smiling face indicating a joke.
>>>
>>>- Don
>D:
>>Nevertheless is the message quit clear, "We'll keep it to
>>ourselfes.....(and Chessbase!?)".  Ernst.
>
>Hello Don,
>
>Haven't had the time to answer your posting till now.  Anyway, your nice
>message does not seem to be very up to the point: the glyphs do not mean
>much as they cannot change the message, just add a little spice to it.
>Let me use a parallel. Person X says to person Y "You stupid schmuck!"
>with a smile on his face, or X says to Y "We don't trust foreigners"
>with a smile -- does this basically change the content of the message or
>the message itself?

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YES, it changes it a LOT in my opinion.  I see your point that the
underlying "insult" is still there, but the context of a message can
mean a whole world of difference.   My own personal reaction (I'm from
USA) changed significanly when I saw the :-) glyphs.  I felt
slightly offended and then saw the glyphs and was ok.

But have you noticed that good friends can insult the hell out of
each other sometimes with no real insult taken (friendly insults
and jabs?) They have developed an understanding, know they are joking
and enjoy the interaction.

In my opinion this example was such a thing.  The poster felt
comfortable enough with the group that he thought this was ok.

One good thing about the newsgroup is that potentially thousands of
people can see this and will make their own judgments.  If the
man stepped out of line, it is there for all to see.   Also the
messages are all archived.  People could actually look at this stuff
1000 years from now at laugh at all of us!  It's a scary thought.


- Don



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