Author: James T. Walker
Date: 13:01:38 07/12/01
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On July 11, 2001 at 23:39:21, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On July 11, 2001 at 22:27:39, John Hatcher wrote: > >>This game proves that there's hope for the rest of us. >> >>Today, in the Vidmar Memorial tournament, in a game between GM Mohr (2468)and GM >>Crisian (2635), this position arose: >> >>[D]8/8/5k2/4r3/8/4RP2/4K3/8 b - - 0 1 >> >>GM Crisian played 57. ...Ra5??, instead of ...Rxe3 with an elementary draw. >> >>Later in the game, this position arose: >> >>[D]5k2/5R2/6K1/5P2/8/8/8/2r5 b - - 0 1 >> >>Here, GM Crisian played 87. ...Ke8?? losing, instead of ...Kg8 drawing. As >>Rueben Fine taught us, the defending King should move to the short side of the >>pawn. >> >>On Kasparovchess.com is was reported that GM Crisian's rating is considered by >>many to be grossly overstated. >> >>JOHN > > >Try your favorite programs _without_ EGTBs and see which ones get this >right. try both moves as black to see if any program thinks white is much >better after black plays Ke8 than Kg8. > >I suspect none will understand this. Mine sure doesn't... Since Kg8 still draws and Ke8 is like mate in 31 or something like that it's not hard to see that most programs would not be able to see that far ahead. Chess Tiger likes Kg8 with a score of -2.61 at 17 plies(White is winning). But in the earlier position if a person played Ra5 against me I would consider it an insult since he is essentially saying I can't even draw with a pawn up in this ending. If a GM played Ra5 and lost this game he got what he deserved.
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