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Subject: Re: Testposition - Tactics (CM8000 Results)

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 01:55:12 07/13/01

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On July 12, 2001 at 22:49:41, Steven J. Brann wrote:

>On July 11, 2001 at 18:08:56, John Merlino wrote:
>
>>On July 11, 2001 at 12:52:30, Sune Larsson wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> [D]r5nr/pp3kpp/2pb4/3pn1P1/8/2N1B2B/PPP2P1P/2KRR3 w - - 0 20
>>>
>>> IM Berg,Emanuel 2496 - GM Akesson,Ralf 2481
>>>
>>>
>>> This is a position from today's 10th round in the SWE-ch. 19 year old
>>> Berg is a very gifted tactician. Here he chose 20.Nxd5!, got an advantage
>>> and won the game vs his more experienced opponent. It was from a e5-pushed
>>> Caro-Kann.
>>>
>>> Test: How long before your program finds and chooses 20.Nxd5!
>>>
>>> The whole game below.
>>>
>>>
>>>[Event "SM"]
>>>[Site "SWE"]
>>>[Date "2001.07.11"]
>>>[Round "10"]
>>>[White "Berg, Emanuel"]
>>>[Black "Akesson, Ralf"]
>>>[Result "1-0"]
>>>[ECO "B12"]
>>>[WhiteElo "2496"]
>>>[BlackElo "2481"]
>>>[PlyCount "61"]
>>>[EventDate "2001.07.11"]
>>>
>>>1. e4 c6 2. d4 d5 3. e5 Bf5 4. Nc3 e6 5. g4 Bg6 6. Nge2 f6 7. Nf4 Bf7 8. Qe2
>>>fxe5 9. Qxe5 Nd7 10. Qe2 Qf6 11. g5 Qxd4 12. Nxe6 Bxe6 13. Qxe6+ Be7 14. Bh3
>>>Qe5+ 15. Be3 Qxe6 16. Bxe6 Bd6 17. O-O-O Ke7 18. Bh3 Ne5 19. Rhe1 Kf7 20. Nxd5
>>>cxd5 21. Rxd5 Rd8 22. Bc5 Nc4 23. Rd4 b6 24. Be6+ Kg6 25. Bxc4 bxc5 26. Re6+
>>>Kxg5 27. Rdxd6 Nf6 28. Rc6 Rd7 29. Rxc5+ Kh4 30. Re3 Ng4 31. Re4 1-0
>>>
>>>Sune
>>
>>Well, that was annoying. After a long think (almost 5 minutes), CM8000 came up
>>with Nxd5. Then, 14 seconds later, it switched to a move that it hadn't thought
>>"best" for over 4 minutes! <sigh> After that, it was a long time before it came
>>around again.
>>
>>So, if the time control and the hardware were JUUUUUST right....
>>
>>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>>0:00	1/4	1.08	5428		20. Ne4 Bb4 21. c3 dxe4 22. cxb4
>>0:00	2/5	0.96	38290		20. Ne4 Bb4 21. Nd2 Ne7 22. f4
>>0:01	2/6	0.98	74134		20. Ne4 Be7 21. Nd2 h6 22. gxh6
>>					Nxh6 23. f3
>>0:03	3/7	0.98	198157		20. Ne4 Be7 21. Nd2 h6 22. gxh6
>>					Nxh6 23. f3
>>0:10	3/8	0.74	658438		20. Ne4 Bb4 21. Nd2 Bxd2+ 22. Bxd2
>>					Nf3 23. Re3 Nxd2 24. Rxd2 Re8
>>0:34	4/9	0.64	2422711		20. Ne4 Bb4 21. Nd2 h6 22. Bd4
>>					Bxd2+ 23. Rxd2 Nf3 24. Re6 hxg5
>>0:45	4/9	0.74	3150143		20. Re2 h6 21. Ne4 Be7 22. Nc5
>>					Bxc5 23. g6+ Nxg6 24. Bxc5 Nf4
>>1:55	5/10	0.49	8371693		20. Re2 h6 21. f4 Nc4 22. Rf1 Nxe3
>>					23. Rxe3 g6 24. Be6+ Kg7 25. Ne2
>>					Ne7
>>4:40	5/10	0.56	21322468	20. Nxd5 cxd5 21. Rxd5 Nc4 22.
>>					Bc5 Bf4+ 23. Kb1 Kg6 24. Rd7 Rc8
>>					25. Bxa7 Nd2+ 26. Ka1 Rxc2 27.
>>					Rxb7 Bxg5
>>4:54	5/10	0.61	22437955	20. Ne4 Bb4 21. Nd2 h6 22. gxh6
>>					Nxh6 23. Rg1 Bxd2+ 24. Bxd2 Nf3
>>					25. Rg3 Nxd2 26. Rxd2
>>8:38	6/11	0.60	39383091	20. Ne4 Bb4 21. Nd2 h6 22. gxh6
>>					Nxh6 23. Rg1 Ng8 24. Rg3 Nf6 25.
>>					f4
>>15:16	6/11	0.92	71501077	20. Nxd5 cxd5 21. Rxd5 Nc4 22.
>>					Bf1 Nxe3 23. Rxe3 Bxh2 24. Rf5+
>>					Kg6 25. Bd3 Bb8 26. Rd5+ Kf7 27.
>>					Rd7+ Kf8 28. Rf3+ Ke8 29. Rxg7
>>
>>jm
>
>
>Hmmmm, hardware and time control just right?  CM8K with my custom personality on
>a 933 PIII finds the solution in 3:49.  It's interesting that it did so after
>evaluation of 29MM positions when your analysis evaluated 71MM positions.

No surprise.

I believe that most of the test positions are solved faster if you increase the
selectivity in chessmaster.

I do not have chessmaster8000 but this is my experience with chessmaster6000

I always use ss=10 in chessmaster6000 for this reason.

Uri



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