Author: José Carlos
Date: 05:51:51 07/16/01
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On July 16, 2001 at 04:02:11, Uri Blass wrote: >On July 16, 2001 at 03:15:48, José Carlos wrote: > >>On July 15, 2001 at 12:39:43, odell hall wrote: >> >>>On July 15, 2001 at 10:57:47, Terry McCracken wrote: >>> >>>>On July 15, 2001 at 07:58:10, odell hall wrote: >>>> >>>>>Don't do what you did on the Van Diel Wiel match and Renig, you said if rebel >>>>>beat Van Der Wiel then computers are GM's , But you back out. >>>> >>>>First Dr. Hyatt is away for a week. So he won't even see you message! Didn't you >>>>read he was off for a holiday? >>> >>> >>> No, I didn't , But I am sure he atleast took a laptop with him. >>> >>> >>>> >>>>Second, GM John van der Wiel played a very short match with Rebel Century, and >>>>the first time he'd ever lost a match to computer, and that was by a mere point. >>> >>> Your Wrong it was by two points, but our of "respect" or Perhaps "Charity" Ed >>>gave him a Draw by he was completley Lost. the score should have been 4-2, a >>>Crush!! >>>> >>> >>>>GM John van der Wiel is an excellent player but not a 2600+ GM, at least not at >>>>present. Yet he could turn a second match with Rebel Century around I'm sure. >>>>Not putting down Rebel, it's an excellent chess program, but not a World Class >>>>GM 2600+, at least not yet!;) >>> >>> >>>Because you are sure, doesn't mean that it is a Fact, it is Empty Speculation, >>>the same as me saying Kasparov in a return match would beat Deepblue, that >>>doesn't make it true, it is just a "belief" >>> >>> >>>>Third, GM Huebner isn't a young man anymore, so I doubt he can play like he is! >>>> >>> >>> >>>I suspect you think he will lose so you are preparing an excuse before hand? You >>>are a Good student of Dr. Hyatt i can see. But the Truth is Huebner is still >>>extremely strong since he is Maintaining a 2600 elo, which is stronger than 99% >>>of Grandmasters in America!!! Old doesn't neccecarily mean Weak, so whats your >>>point? >>> >>> >>>>Forth, do you know more than Professor Hyatt? Are you a programmer? Better yet >>>>are you a GM?? >>> >>> >>> >>>Depends on what your referring to, I know alot more than Professor Hyatt in >>>Certain Areas, as far as Computer Chess and the Strength of Programs it is an >>>area that all of us are guessing at, but the evidence is pointing to the fact >>>that computers are GM's, if Dr. Hyatt was as Smart as you think, he would >>>believe the evidence that is before his eyes, instead of being an Arrogant Son >>>of a Biscuit eater, for him it's more important not to be wrong, then to admit >>>the truth. I don't respect people with this type of EGO. by the way I don't have >>>to be a programmer to be right in what I am saying, all I have to do is look at >>>the Evidence and ACCEPT IT. By the way, there are many programmers here who >>>believe Hyatt is full of S--t. >> >> Can you name one? You're offending programmers with that statement (at least, >>I feel offended), so you'd better apologize. >> >> José C. > >I can name some programmers who clearly disagree with Hyatt. >Amir and Vincent are the names that I remember now. > >I do not remember that they used the words "full of s--t" but it is clear that >they did not find Hyatt's statements about Deep blue as something that is close >to the truth. > >Uri There's a difference between the word 'disagree', which is very repectful, and the expression "full of s--t", which is offensive. People disagree everytime. No problem. People use strong words sometimes, but if they apologize at the end for the offenses, there's no problem IMO. I disagree with Bob sometimes, but I know he's got much more experience than I have. He's been world champion. He's known to be an expert in computer chess, which he's proved a lot of times. And, dispite his sometimes 'strong words', he's always there trying to help everybody in computer chess. He deserves respect. That's why I asked him for apologize. José C.
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