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Subject: Re: The operator of Fritz accepted the offered draw, but Fritz...

Author: José Carlos

Date: 01:35:53 07/20/01

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On July 19, 2001 at 17:33:54, Uri Blass wrote:

>On July 19, 2001 at 16:49:11, Otello Gnaramori wrote:
>
>>Excerpt from the Chessbase page of the latest report from Dortmund :
>>
>>http://www.chessbase.com/events/dortm01/dortm03.htm
>>
>><snip>
>>"In the Man vs Machine match Dr Robert Hübner, playing with the white pieces,
>>offered his opponent Deep Fritz a draw after 21 moves. The operator accepted,
>>even though Fritz thought it was slightly ahead in the game. The score between
>>the two is now 2:2. The last two games will be played on Saturday and Sunday."
>><snip>
>>
>>
>>Probably when the operator pressed the button "Offer Draw" Fritz answered "I
>>think that the game is still quite interesting , let's play on", but the human
>>operator didn't want to disappoint Dr. Hubner.
>>
>>Regards.
>
>I think that operators of chess programs should not have the right to decide if
>to agree to a draw.
>It is something that only the machines should have the right to decide about.

  It's not so easy. There're several cases that should be handled by the
operator. For example: a dead draw ending where the program thinks he's slightly
better because of a bishop vs knight. After 20 moves Bf1,Be2,Bd3,Bc2... the draw
should be accepted by the operator.
  Besides, since most human players don't like to play computers, you have to be
careful not to make angry the few that play with them. I don't mean accepting
the draw everytime, of course, but sometimes it's clear for the human, although
the program has no clue.
  Finally, if the operator us the programmer, I think he should always have the
right to accept a draw.

  José C.

>I think that the operator was simply lazy and this is one of the main reasons
>for the fact that Deep Fritz did not win the 4th game.
>
>I think that it is better to say usually no to draw offers unless the position
>is a simple draw or the opponent has a simple way to force at least a draw.
>
>Uri



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