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Subject: Re: Wouldn't the SSDF get more accurate results if a "DEEP" program .....

Author: Torstein Hall

Date: 00:24:34 07/21/01

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On July 21, 2001 at 01:50:27, Uri Blass wrote:

>On July 20, 2001 at 22:14:48, Joshua Lee wrote:
>
>>On July 20, 2001 at 18:07:21, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On July 20, 2001 at 15:51:47, Joshua Lee wrote:
>>>
>>>>Wouldn't the SSDF get more accurate results if a "DEEP" program was on a dual
>>>>700Mhz machine than on a single 1200Mhz one?
>>>
>>>Most buyers do not use more than one processor so the interesting question is
>>>the rating of programs on one processor.
>>>
>>>700*2 is not more or less accurate than 1200 but simply different.
>>>
>>
>>How different, In what ways are Deep Fritz on a dual to Deep Fritz on a Single
>>Processor different if both computers are running at roughly the same speed?
>
>First thing is that Deep Fritz on a dual is not deterministic program.
>
>Second thing is that I am not sure if the speed is exactly the same speed and
>the question which program is faster may be dependent on the position.
>>
>>
>>
>>>>The logic is as follows the programs were intended for 2 or more cpu's
>>>>if you get 1.7x when you use 2 cpu's as to one
>>>> 700 x 1.7 = 1190 this way you still get roughly equal cpu power and the "Deep"
>>>>program get's to run as it was intended.
>>>
>>>Deep Fritz is intended also for one processor and if you talk about Deep Junior
>>>then the ssdf does not use it in their tests.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>This is pretty strange shouldn't they test Shredder and Junior on as well with
>>each version Deep and Regular?
>
>Most customers use one proxessor so I guess that they prefer testing only the
>one processor version.
>>
>>Not only that shouldn't they test Wchess,Zarkov,Mephisto,Chess Genius it makes
>>sense as these programs did well against Deep Thoughtthe point being if
>>Program Deep Fritz Beats Wchess,Zarkov,Mephisto,Chess Genius Deep Fritz is as
>>Strong if not better than Deep Thought?
>
>Deep thought is not commercial program and we cannot test it so the interesting
>question is not comparing Deep Fritz with Deep thought.
>
>It is agreed by almost everyone except Hyatt that Deep Fritz is better than
>Deep thought and there are even people who think that Deep Fritz is also better
>than Deeper blue of 1997.
>
>The people who think that the commercial programs of today are better than
>Deeper Blue(1997) include at leasst 2 programmers when one of them is Amir Ban.

He He

I would love to see Deep Blue crush little Fritzie!!

Torstein

>I also guess that the best commercial programs of today are better than Deeper
>blue.
>
>Uri



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