Author: Uri Blass
Date: 00:45:21 07/21/01
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On July 21, 2001 at 03:24:34, Torstein Hall wrote: >On July 21, 2001 at 01:50:27, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On July 20, 2001 at 22:14:48, Joshua Lee wrote: >> >>>On July 20, 2001 at 18:07:21, Uri Blass wrote: >>> >>>>On July 20, 2001 at 15:51:47, Joshua Lee wrote: >>>> >>>>>Wouldn't the SSDF get more accurate results if a "DEEP" program was on a dual >>>>>700Mhz machine than on a single 1200Mhz one? >>>> >>>>Most buyers do not use more than one processor so the interesting question is >>>>the rating of programs on one processor. >>>> >>>>700*2 is not more or less accurate than 1200 but simply different. >>>> >>> >>>How different, In what ways are Deep Fritz on a dual to Deep Fritz on a Single >>>Processor different if both computers are running at roughly the same speed? >> >>First thing is that Deep Fritz on a dual is not deterministic program. >> >>Second thing is that I am not sure if the speed is exactly the same speed and >>the question which program is faster may be dependent on the position. >>> >>> >>> >>>>>The logic is as follows the programs were intended for 2 or more cpu's >>>>>if you get 1.7x when you use 2 cpu's as to one >>>>> 700 x 1.7 = 1190 this way you still get roughly equal cpu power and the "Deep" >>>>>program get's to run as it was intended. >>>> >>>>Deep Fritz is intended also for one processor and if you talk about Deep Junior >>>>then the ssdf does not use it in their tests. >>>> >>>>Uri >>> >>>This is pretty strange shouldn't they test Shredder and Junior on as well with >>>each version Deep and Regular? >> >>Most customers use one proxessor so I guess that they prefer testing only the >>one processor version. >>> >>>Not only that shouldn't they test Wchess,Zarkov,Mephisto,Chess Genius it makes >>>sense as these programs did well against Deep Thoughtthe point being if >>>Program Deep Fritz Beats Wchess,Zarkov,Mephisto,Chess Genius Deep Fritz is as >>>Strong if not better than Deep Thought? >> >>Deep thought is not commercial program and we cannot test it so the interesting >>question is not comparing Deep Fritz with Deep thought. >> >>It is agreed by almost everyone except Hyatt that Deep Fritz is better than >>Deep thought and there are even people who think that Deep Fritz is also better >>than Deeper blue of 1997. >> >>The people who think that the commercial programs of today are better than >>Deeper Blue(1997) include at leasst 2 programmers when one of them is Amir Ban. > >He He > >I would love to see Deep Blue crush little Fritzie!! Maybe Deeper blue of the future can do it but I guess that deeper blue of 1997 cannot do it. The only way for IBM to convince me that Deeper blue(1997) is better than Deep fritz is to release it. If they release something better than Deeper blue(1997) that beats Deep Fritz then it is not going to convince me. Uri
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