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Subject: Re: According to Chess Tiger 14.0 Deep Fritz was winning, but ?!

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 08:14:15 07/21/01

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On July 21, 2001 at 10:40:41, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On July 21, 2001 at 09:53:11, Steve  John Joyce wrote:
>
>>On July 21, 2001 at 09:40:38, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On July 21, 2001 at 08:24:18, Mark Young wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 21, 2001 at 06:37:48, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On July 21, 2001 at 04:19:56, odell hall wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  I think maybe Robert should have Played on while he had the White pieces,
>>>>>>instead of accepting a 21 move Draw, I guess Fatique is finally taking a hold of
>>>>>>the aging Grandmaster. Anyway Huebner has played very Well this match, and
>>>>>>proven himself a Solid 2600 GM.
>>>>>
>>>>>I agree with you that fatique has taken a lot from this 60 + years old man, but
>>>>>Deep Fritz was the program that has to prove itself of being a GM, and it has on
>>>>>a Dual 1000 MHz system. Now 8 x 1000 MHz will not be enough to beat Kramnik
>>>>>in october, but there will be several draws.
>>>>
>>>
>>>http://213.61.1.82/sv/watch640.html
>>>
>>>>>Pichard.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>There will not be much differece between 2x1000 and 8x1000 system rating wise. I
>>>>don't know how much better Fritz 7 will be over DeepFritz. But you are correct
>>>>Fritz will not beat Kramnik, not even Kasparov was able to win even 1 game
>>>>against Kramnik.
>>
>>After 25....N-f6, Fritz6 is showing +.63, what do you show, Jorge?
>>Steve
>
>Steve my Chess Tiger 14.0 only had an advantage of +.58, but it ended in another
>Draw.
>
>Pichard

My Junior7 says 0.00 in the final position
Crafty can also see almost a draw evaluation.

New position
6k1/1p3p2/2p2p1p/5P2/3P2P1/2P4P/q7/4Q1K1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Junior 7:

1...h5 2.Qe8+ Kg7 3.gxh5
  ²  (0.42)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
1...Qc2 2.Qe8+ Kg7
  ²  (0.39)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
1...Kh7 2.Qe8
  =  (0.25)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
1...Kg7 2.Qe8
  =  (0.19)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
1...Kf8 2.Kf1
  =  (0.14)   Depth: 3   00:00:00
1...Kf8 2.Kf1 b5
  =  (0.21)   Depth: 6   00:00:00  1kN
1...Kf8 2.Qc1 Kg7 3.Qe3 b5 4.Qe8
  =  (0.15)   Depth: 9   00:00:00  32kN
1...Kf8 2.Qc1 Kg7 3.c4 b5 4.cxb5 cxb5 5.Qe1 Qa3
  =  (0.17)   Depth: 12   00:00:00  154kN
1...Kg7 2.h4 b5 3.Kf1 Kf8
  =  (0.13)   Depth: 12   00:00:00  240kN
1...Kg7 2.h4 c5 3.dxc5 Qc4 4.Kh2 Qxc5 5.Kh3 h5 6.Qd2
  =  (0.16)   Depth: 15   00:00:01  1173kN
1...Kg7 2.h4 h5 3.gxh5 Kh6 4.Qd1 b6 5.Qf3 Qd5 6.Qg4 Qc4 7.Qg3 Kxh5 8.Kf2
  =  (0.09)   Depth: 18   00:00:20  14447kN, tb=1
1...Qc2 2.h4 h5 3.gxh5 Qxf5 4.Qf2 Qxh5 5.Qxf6 Qd1+ 6.Qf1 Qh5
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 18   00:00:42  29424kN, tb=6
1...Qc2 2.Qe8+ Kg7 3.Qe3 h5 4.Qe1 Kh6 5.Kf1 hxg4 6.Qh4+ Kg7 7.Qxg4+ Kf8 8.Qf3
  =  (0.00)   Depth: 20   00:01:49  74343kN, tb=202

(Blass, Tel-aviv 21.07.2001)

New position
6k1/1p3p2/2p2p1p/5P2/3P2P1/2P4P/q7/4Q1K1 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Crafty 18.10:

1...Qd5
  ±  (1.02)   Depth: 1/5   00:00:00
1...Qd5 2.Kf2
  ±  (1.22)   Depth: 2/5   00:00:00
1...Qc2 2.Qe3
  ±  (1.20)   Depth: 2/5   00:00:00
1...Qc2 2.Qe8+ Kg7 3.Qe3
  ±  (1.00)   Depth: 3/5   00:00:00
1...Qc2 2.Qe3 h5 3.Qe8+ Kg7
  ±  (0.90)   Depth: 4/13   00:00:00
1...Qc2 2.Qe3 h5 3.gxh5 Qxf5
  ±  (0.79)   Depth: 5/13   00:00:00
1...Qc2 2.Qe3 Kg7 3.Qf3 Qd2 4.Kf1
  ±  (0.80)   Depth: 6/15   00:00:00  18kN
1...Qc2 2.Qe3 h5 3.gxh5 Qxf5 4.Qg3+ Kh7 5.Qg4
  ²  (0.69)   Depth: 7/16   00:00:00  45kN
1...Qc2 2.Qe3 h5 3.gxh5 Qxf5 4.h6 Kh7 5.Kg2
  ±  (0.77)   Depth: 8/17   00:00:00  86kN
1...Qc2 2.Qe3 h5 3.gxh5 Qxf5 4.Qe2 Kf8 5.Qg4 Qg5
  ²  (0.65)   Depth: 9/20   00:00:01  245kN
1...Qc2 2.Qe8+ Kg7 3.Qe3 h5 4.gxh5 Qxf5 5.h6+ Kh7 6.Kh2 Qc2+ 7.Kg3 Qg6+ 8.Kf3
Qxh6 9.Qxh6+ Kxh6
  ²  (0.43)   Depth: 10/22   00:00:02  635kN
1...Qc2 2.Qe3 h5 3.Qf3 hxg4 4.Qxg4+ Kf8 5.Qf3 Qd2 6.Kf1 Ke7 7.Qe2+ Qxe2+ 8.Kxe2
b6
  ²  (0.43)   Depth: 11/25   00:00:03  1356kN
1...Qc2 2.Qe3 h5 3.Qf3 hxg4 4.Qxg4+ Kf8 5.Qf3 Ke7 6.h4 Kd6 7.h5 b6
  ²  (0.31)   Depth: 12/29   00:00:06  2661kN
1...Qc2 2.Qe3 Kh7 3.Qf3 Qc1+ 4.Kh2 Qd2+ 5.Kg3 Qe1+ 6.Kf4 Qd2+ 7.Qe3 Qh2+ 8.Ke4
Qc2+ 9.Kf3 Qh2 10.Qe1 Qxh3+ 11.Kf4
  =  (0.21)   Depth: 13/30   00:00:14  6873kN
1...Qc2 2.Qe3 Kh7 3.Qf3 Qc1+ 4.Kh2 Qd2+ 5.Kg3 Qe1+ 6.Kf4 Qd2+ 7.Qe3 Qh2+ 8.Ke4
Qc2+ 9.Kf3 Qh2 10.h4 Qxh4 11.Kf4
  ²  (0.33)   Depth: 14/32   00:00:19  9777kN
1...Qc2 2.Qe3 Kh7 3.Kf1 h5 4.Qf3 hxg4 5.hxg4 Qa2 6.Ke1 Qc4 7.Qh1+ Kg7 8.Kd2 b6
9.Qe4 c5
  =  (0.14)   Depth: 15/34   00:01:01  30480kN, tb=1
1...Qc2 2.Qe3 Kh7 3.Kf1 h5 4.Qf3 hxg4 5.hxg4 Qa2 6.Qh3+ Kg7 7.Qd3 Kh6 8.Kg1 b6
9.Qf3 Qc4 10.Kf2
  =  (0.13)   Depth: 16/37   00:02:00  60583kN, tb=5

(Blass, Tel-aviv 21.07.2001)



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