Author: Tim Foden
Date: 12:59:50 07/21/01
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On July 20, 2001 at 23:31:22, Dann Corbit wrote:
>On July 20, 2001 at 22:30:42, K. Burcham wrote:
>
>>
>>we all have lots of losses with our programs.
>>but this was the first blunder that i have experienced with any program.
>>check out 26...Qa7.
>>
>>this was a 5/5 game.
>>time for shredder5 was set on 8 seconds per move.
>>i could not get shredder5 to play this move again.
>>now it is sober and it wants 26...Qc8.
>>must be the fumes off my cheap homemade beer.
>>
>>i think i will format and reload shredder5.
>>and pour out the beer.
>>
>>
>>
>>[Event "program blunder"]
>>[Site "?"]
>>[Date "2001.07.20"]
>>[Round "?"]
>>[White "gambit tiger 2.0"]
>>[Black "shredder 5"]
>>[Result "1-0"]
>>
>>1. d4 {0s} Nf6 {book 0s} 2. Bg5 {7s} Ne4 {book 0s} 3. Bf4
>>{6s} c5 {book 0s} 4. f3 {7s} Qa5+ {book 0s} 5. c3 {8s} Nf6
>>{book 0s} 6. d5 {7s} Qb6 {book 0s} 7. b3 {7s} g6 {book 0s}
>>8. e4 {6s} d6 {-0.68/10 8s} 9. Bd3 {8s} Bg7 {-0.23/11 8s}
>>10. Ne2 {7s} Nbd7 {-0.68/10 8s} 11. a4 {20s} O-O {-0.61/10
>>8s} 12. Nd2 {43s} Ne5 {-0.79/10 8s} 13. Nc4 {12s} Nxc4
>>{-0.41/11 8s} 14. Bxc4 {12s} Nd7 {-0.32/11 8s} 15. a5 {15s}
>>Qc7 {-0.33/11 8s} 16. O-O {17s} Ne5 {-0.29/11 8s} 17. Bxe5
>>{9s} Bxe5 {-0.23/13 8s} 18. f4 {13s} Bg7 {-0.07/12 8s}
>>19. f5 {13s} gxf5 {+0.02/11 8s} 20. exf5 {12s} Bd7
>>{+0.03/11 8s} 21. Qd2 {20s} b5 {+0.20/11 8s} 22. axb6 {12s}
>>axb6 {+0.08/11 8s} 23. Rxa8 {21s} Rxa8 {+0.22/11 8s}
>>24. Ng3 {6s} b5 {-0.15/11 8s} 25. Nh5 {13s} Be5 {-0.47/10
>>8s} 26. Qh6 {14s} Qa7 {-7.65/7 8s} 27. f6 {13s} Bxf6
>>{-M4/14 8s} 28. Rxf6 {11s} Qa1+ {-M3/15 8s} 29. Bf1 {10s}
>>Qxf1+ {-M2/17 8s} 30. Rxf1 {10s} Ra2 {-M1/13 8s} 1-0
>>
>> [D] r5k1/2qbpp1p/3p3Q/1ppPbP1N/2B5/1PP5/6PP/5RK1 b - - 0 1
>
>Play enough blitz, and you'll see plenty of blunders. The faster the games, the
>more commical the moves. Have a look at some of these games, and you will see
>plenty of moves that will curl your toes:
>ftp://cap.connx.com/pub/The%20Gauntlet/calibration/quick/
>
>It appears that this position has some snags under the surface. It might be
>interesting to give it a good long pounding. It appears that Qc8 is also
>losing.
I inadvertantly left GLC analysing this all day, and so far it seems to support
this:
>fen r5k1/2qbpp1p/3p3Q/1ppPbP1N/2B5/1PP5/6PP/5RK1 b
>hash 96
Hash table size set to: 96.0MB
>anal
Game stage: Middle game
Current eval: 0.09
Ply Time Score Nodes Principal Variation
4 0.66 2.72 5793 bxc4 Qg5+ Kh8 bxc4 Ba4
4 0.74 2.72 8733 bxc4 Qg5+ Kh8 bxc4 Ba4
5 0.98 2.46 10659 bxc4 Qg5+ Kh8 bxc4 Ba4 f6
5 1.83 2.46 26250 bxc4 Qg5+ Kh8 bxc4 Ba4 f6
6 3.48 2.44 55614 bxc4 bxc4 Bxc3 Qg5+ Kh8 Qxe7 Bd4+ Kh1
6 5.51 2.44 108643 bxc4 bxc4 Bxc3 Qg5+ Kh8 Qxe7 Bd4+ Kh1
7 9.16 -- 443978 bxc4 (a=1.94 b=2.94 e=1.94)
7 9.26 -320.90 472877 bxc4 f6 Bxf6 Rxf6 Ra1+ Rf1 Rxf1+ Kxf1 cxb3 Qg7#
<ht>
7 10.60 -0.98 970411 Qd8 f6 Qf8 Qg5+ Kh8 fxe7 Qe8 Bd3 Bxc3
7 11.73 -0.80 1544689 Qb8 f6 Bxf6 Nxf6+ exf6 Bd3 f5 Qg5+ Kh8 Bxf5
7 12.56 -0.76 1986620 Bh8 Qg5+ Kf8 f6 Re8 Bd3 Bxf6 <ht>
7 13.69 -0.76 2559029 Bh8 Qg5+ Kf8 f6 Re8 Bd3 Bxf6 <ht>
8 14.14 -1.22 2805097 Qd8 f6 Qf8 Qg5+ Kh8 fxe7 Qe8 Nf6 Qxe7 Nxh7
8 17.08 -0.92 4299492 Bf6 Nxf6+ exf6 Rf4 Bxf5 Bxb5 Qb6 Bf1 Bg6 Bc4
8 18.91 ++ 5250790 bxc4 (a=-1.26 b=-0.26 e=-0.26)
8 19.10 -- 5348771 bxc4 (a=-0.27 b=321.00 e=-0.27)
8 19.11 -320.90 5353661 bxc4 f6 Bxf6 Rxf6 Ra1+ Rf1 Rxf1+ Kxf1 cxb3 Qg7#
<ht>
8 19.11 -0.92 5353663 Bf6 <ht>
8 19.38 -0.92 5488402 Bf6 <ht>
9 27.79 -0.90 9732136 Qc8 f6 Qf8 Qg5+ Kh8 fxe7 Qe8 Bd3 Bxc3 Rf2 b4
9 33.27 -0.90 12613k Qc8 f6 Qf8 Qg5+ Kh8 fxe7 Qe8 Bd3 Bxc3 Rf2 b4
10 35.52 -0.87 13874k Qc8 f6 Qf8 Qg5+ Kh8 fxe7 Qe8 Rf6 Qg8 Qxg8+ Kxg8 Bd3
Re8 Rh6
10 44.09 -0.87 18339k Qc8 f6 Qf8 Qg5+ Kh8 fxe7 Qe8 Rf6 Qg8 Qxg8+ Kxg8 Bd3
Re8 Rh6
11 53.86 -0.69 24028k Qc8 f6 Qf8 Qg5+ Kh8 fxe7 Qg8 Qxg8+ Kxg8 Bd3 Bxc3 Nf4
Re8 Ne2 b4
11 1:05 -0.69 29852k Qc8 f6 Qf8 Qg5+ Kh8 fxe7 Qg8 Qxg8+ Kxg8 Bd3 Bxc3 Nf4
Re8 Ne2 b4
12 1:22 -0.81 39567k Qc8 f6 Qf8 Qg5+ Kh8 fxe7 Qg8 Qxg8+ Kxg8 Bd3 Bxc3
Nf6+ Bxf6 Rxf6 Re8 Rxd6 Rxe7 Rf6
12 1:58 -0.81 58937k Qc8 f6 Qf8 Qg5+ Kh8 fxe7 Qg8 Qxg8+ Kxg8 Bd3 Bxc3
Nf6+ Bxf6 Rxf6 Re8 Rxd6 Rxe7 Rf6
13 6:37 -- 198047k Qc8 (a=-1.31 b=-0.31 e=-1.31)
13 7:18 ++ 217837k Qc8 (a=-321.00 b=-1.30 e=-1.30)
13 7:46 -1.76 232249k Qc8 f6 Qf8 Qg5+ Kh8 fxe7 Qg8 Qxg8+ Kxg8 Nf6+ Bxf6
Rxf6 Re8 Rxd6 Rxe7 Bd3 Be8 Rf6 Re1+ Rf1
13 16:59 -1.76 503995k Qc8 f6 Qf8 Qg5+ Kh8 fxe7 Qg8 Qxg8+ Kxg8 Nf6+ Bxf6
Rxf6 Re8 Rxd6 Rxe7 Bd3 Be8 Rf6 Re1+ Rf1
14 21:59 -1.71 650227k Qc8 f6 Qf8 Qg5+ Kh8 fxe7 Qg8 Qxg8+ Kxg8 Nf6+ Bxf6
Rxf6 Re8 Rxd6 Rxe7 Bd3 Re1+ Kf2 Re7 Rf6 Re8
14 34:57 -1.71 1013m Qc8 f6 Qf8 Qg5+ Kh8 fxe7 Qg8 Qxg8+ Kxg8 Nf6+ Bxf6
Rxf6 Re8 Rxd6 Rxe7 Bd3 Re1+ Kf2 Re7 Rf6 Re8
15 43:15 -1.86 1255m Qc8 f6 Qf8 Qg5+ Kh8 fxe7 Qg8 Qxg8+ Kxg8 Nf6+ Bxf6
Rxf6 Re8 Rxd6 Rxe7 Bd3 h5 c4 bxc4 bxc4 Re1+ Kf2
Re7
15 1:23:32 -1.86 2382m Qc8 f6 Qf8 Qg5+ Kh8 fxe7 Qg8 Qxg8+ Kxg8 Nf6+ Bxf6
Rxf6 Re8 Rxd6 Rxe7 Bd3 h5 c4 bxc4 bxc4 Re1+ Kf2
Re7
16 2:01:59 -1.84 3527m Qc8 f6 Qf8 Qg5+ Kh8 fxe7 Qg8 Qxg8+ Kxg8 Nf6+ Bxf6
Rxf6 Re8 Rxd6 Rxe7 Bd3 b4 c4 Re1+ Kf2 Re7 Rh6 f5
16 3:55:04 -1.84 6710m Qc8 f6 Qf8 Qg5+ Kh8 fxe7 Qg8 Qxg8+ Kxg8 Nf6+ Bxf6
Rxf6 Re8 Rxd6 Rxe7 Bd3 b4 c4 Re1+ Kf2 Re7 Rh6 f5
17 5:24:32 -1.87 9371m Qc8 f6 Qf8 Qg5+ Kh8 fxe7 Qg8 Qxg8+ Kxg8 Nf6+ Bxf6
Rxf6 Re8 Rxd6 Rxe7 Bd3 Kg7 c4 b4 Ra6 Re3 Bc2 Re2
17 11:44:16 2/38 Bxf5 >
Cheers, Tim.
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