Author: Mark Young
Date: 03:16:44 07/23/01
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On July 22, 2001 at 14:19:22, Joshua Lee wrote: >On July 22, 2001 at 09:13:39, Jonas Cohonas wrote: > >>On July 22, 2001 at 09:02:54, Joshua Lee wrote: >> >>>You've never read GM Kramnik's statements about a Match with Fritz have you? >>>Basically if a GM want's a Draw then he will get one. Heubner hasn't been very >>>active untill recently so this may be a little warm up. But none the less he >>>should've crushed fritz seeing how it only deserves a 2612 rating if it were on >>>hardware several times faster than it was. Hat's off to Fritz and it's >>>programmers. >> >>I think Huebner did what he could to draw, nothing more nothing less, i was not >>impressed with either DF or Huebner. Huebner was affraid to lose, and excanged >>pieces like his life depended on it BOOOORING. DF 2612 on a dual 1gig, CT14.0 >>2782 on an 800mhz maby the wrong program is to face Kramnik??? >> >>Regards >>Jonas > >Results like the one's you mention prove that this is not an exact science. >while DF can Draw like a GM and CT can beat a GM or two maybe 3 (i didn't follow >the match) I seriously doubt that Computers are GM's in every phase of the game >Kasparov said DB "The computer was like a 2800 player in the endgame", i think >the DB team said they had all 6 piece and some 8 piece endgame tablebases but i >may be mis quoting the team This is a hugh statement coming from one of the best >endgame players (Karpov and Smyslov helped with Encyclopedia of Chess Endgames >which may not say much lots of errors however Smyslov's Rook Endings is supposed >to be really good) > >So Computers play over 2000 in the endgame for sure >Chess Tiger and other programs when it comes to tactics will play over 2000 >Deep Fritz can make GM draws but even experts 2000-2199 have beaten GM's on >occasion so this does NOT say much The day you have a GM or IM say yes it's as >good as me or it is better then i think this confusion will be over. The confusion is over then, some players have already made such statments to this effect.
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