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Subject: Re: Not Fritz 7!, Not Deep Fritz!, but Deep Fritz Grandmaster 1.0!!

Author: Mark Young

Date: 03:16:44 07/23/01

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On July 22, 2001 at 14:19:22, Joshua Lee wrote:

>On July 22, 2001 at 09:13:39, Jonas Cohonas wrote:
>
>>On July 22, 2001 at 09:02:54, Joshua Lee wrote:
>>
>>>You've never read GM Kramnik's statements about a Match with Fritz have you?
>>>Basically if a GM want's a Draw then he will get one. Heubner hasn't been very
>>>active untill recently so this may be a little warm up. But none the less he
>>>should've crushed fritz seeing how it only deserves a 2612 rating if it were on
>>>hardware several times faster than it was. Hat's off to Fritz and it's
>>>programmers.
>>
>>I think Huebner did what he could to draw, nothing more nothing less, i was not
>>impressed with either DF or Huebner. Huebner was affraid to lose, and excanged
>>pieces like his life depended on it BOOOORING. DF 2612 on a dual 1gig, CT14.0
>>2782 on an 800mhz maby the wrong program is to face Kramnik???
>>
>>Regards
>>Jonas
>
>Results like the one's you mention prove that this is not an exact science.
>while DF can Draw like a GM and CT can beat a GM or two maybe 3 (i didn't follow
>the match) I seriously doubt that Computers are GM's in every phase of the game
>Kasparov said DB "The computer was like a 2800 player in the endgame",  i think
>the DB team said they had all 6 piece and some 8 piece endgame tablebases but i
>may be mis quoting the team This is a hugh statement coming from one of the best
>endgame players (Karpov and Smyslov helped with Encyclopedia of Chess Endgames
>which may not say much lots of errors however Smyslov's Rook Endings is supposed
>to be really good)
>
>So Computers play over 2000 in the endgame for sure
>Chess Tiger and other programs when it comes to tactics will play over 2000
>Deep Fritz can make GM draws but even experts 2000-2199 have beaten GM's on
>occasion so this does NOT say much

The day you have a GM or IM say yes it's as
>good as me or it is better then i think this confusion will be over.

The confusion is over then, some players have already made such statments to
this effect.



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