Author: Uri Blass
Date: 04:00:07 07/23/01
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On July 22, 2001 at 14:19:22, Joshua Lee wrote: >On July 22, 2001 at 09:13:39, Jonas Cohonas wrote: > >>On July 22, 2001 at 09:02:54, Joshua Lee wrote: >> >>>You've never read GM Kramnik's statements about a Match with Fritz have you? >>>Basically if a GM want's a Draw then he will get one. Heubner hasn't been very >>>active untill recently so this may be a little warm up. But none the less he >>>should've crushed fritz seeing how it only deserves a 2612 rating if it were on >>>hardware several times faster than it was. Hat's off to Fritz and it's >>>programmers. >> >>I think Huebner did what he could to draw, nothing more nothing less, i was not >>impressed with either DF or Huebner. Huebner was affraid to lose, and excanged >>pieces like his life depended on it BOOOORING. DF 2612 on a dual 1gig, CT14.0 >>2782 on an 800mhz maby the wrong program is to face Kramnik??? >> >>Regards >>Jonas > >Results like the one's you mention prove that this is not an exact science. >while DF can Draw like a GM and CT can beat a GM or two maybe 3 (i didn't follow >the match) I seriously doubt that Computers are GM's in every phase of the game You can also say that human GM's are also not GM's in every phase of the game and there are GM's who play some kind of endgames like 2200 players. Nobody expect GM's to be GM's strength in every position. >Kasparov said DB "The computer was like a 2800 player in the endgame", i think >the DB team said they had all 6 piece and some 8 piece endgame tablebases No They had only 5 piece tablebases. The 6 piece tablebases are huge and only small part of them exist today. I do not remember that kasparov said that DB was like 2800 player in the endgame. but i >may be mis quoting the team This is a hugh statement coming from one of the best >endgame players (Karpov and Smyslov helped with Encyclopedia of Chess Endgames >which may not say much lots of errors however Smyslov's Rook Endings is supposed >to be really good) > >So Computers play over 2000 in the endgame for sure >Chess Tiger and other programs when it comes to tactics will play over 2000 >Deep Fritz can make GM draws but even experts 2000-2199 have beaten GM's on >occasion so this does NOT say much I do not know about 2000-2199 player who did 6 draws in a row against >2600 GM's. Nobody says that computers are GM strength because of one game. The day you have a GM or IM say yes it's as >good as me or it is better then i think this confusion will be over. I do not care about what they say but I believe that they already said it. Uri
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