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Subject: Re: Computers have now passed every test, Computers are GM level players.

Author: Otello Gnaramori

Date: 05:32:40 07/23/01

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On July 23, 2001 at 04:06:20, Mark Young wrote:

>On July 22, 2001 at 11:17:23, Chris Carson wrote:
>
>>I will be sending the entire list to Tony tomorrow.  The new list
>>is broken out by Commercial and Non-Commercial.  The Non-Commercial
>>list will have all the DT, DTII, DB, DBjr games included for a total
>>of 365 games (commercial and non-commercial).  The pgn's will include
>>all 365 plus the DT/DB vs computer games.
>>
>>Also, since I do not post analysis or opinions here, Tony is publishing
>>my analysis in his e-maililing.  I get no money for my analysis and I do
>>not work for any commercial program or company.
>>
>>Here is the latest list for commercial programs on 866mhz and faster,
>>all games are included:
>>
>>                                                W       D       L      Tot
>>C. Tiger 14	P3	866	2788	2497	8	3	0	11
>>D. Junior 6	SMP	8x700	2702	2702	2	5	2	9
>>D. Fritz 6	SMP	4x500	2678	2545	6	4	2	12
>>D. Fritz 7	SMP	2X1000	2612	2612	0	6	0	6
>>Rebel-Cen	P3	866	2598	2531	2	3	1	6
>>D. Junior 6	SMP	4x500		2635	0	1	0	1
>>Reb-Cen	K7	1000		2485	0	1	0	1
>>                                               18      23      5       46
>
>Computer programs have now passed every test it seems that people have produced
>objections for to debunk the above results.
>
>1.	Preparation
>2.	Motivation
>3.	Quality of players
>4.	Money
>5.	Match conditions against strong GM prepared players.
>6.	Tournament conditions with strong GM players.
>
>Even with all the “holes” still left in the modern chess programs play, which
>the critics of GM level play for computers rightly, point out. It must be noted
>that the human side has only been able to produced 5 wins against these
>weaknesses, while the computer side has produced 18 wins against the human
>weaknesses.
>
>This begs the logical question: Which side has more “holes” that need to be
>fixed, Humans or Computers?
>

We are usually saying in this situations :
"You can't find a deaf worser than the healthy one that refused to hear"

>
>
>
>>
>>Ofcourse, I will not respond to any posts here, you will have to read
>>Tony's letter to get my perspective.
>>
>>Best Regards,
>>Chris Carson



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