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Subject: Re: Hubner - Fritz: 3-3 is really disappointing !

Author: Torstein Hall

Date: 09:37:08 07/23/01

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On July 23, 2001 at 12:16:57, Mogens Larsen wrote:

>On July 23, 2001 at 10:13:29, Janosch Zwerensky wrote:
>
>>The top programs have consistently had performance ratings better than elo 2500,
>>and in many cases indeed even better than elo 2600, where they competed against
>>humans in the last two years.
>>I am not aware of any 2400 rated human player to whom something similar would
>>apply.
>
>Several 2400 players have done so. Otherwise they wouldn't be Grandmasters by
>now :-). Kidding aside, I think you make the mistake of equating humans with
>computer programs and disregard the meager frequency of human/program
>encounters. IMO any 2400 rated player has a vastly superior understanding of the
>game compared to a computer program. Something that probably wouldn't help
>him/her as much against a higher rated player. And a computer program has
>tactical strengths capable of defeating any player. A weaponry very few 2400
>rated players have. So the question is if the understanding of chess posessed by
>an IM is sufficient to devise a strategy capable of harnessing the tactical
>abilities of a computer program sufficiently. I still think that it's possible.
>
>Regards,
>Mogens

That an IM has the capability to defeat one of the top programs on fast hardware
under match conditions has not been seen for quite a while. So if no one has
data to prove me wrong, I think the demand for proof now is on the "Computer is
not GM" side. We have seen so many comps fighting equal or beating GM's, so now
I want to see an IM beating the computers!

Torstein

PS I still belive Kramnik will make Chop Sui ( How do I spell that Chinese
dish?) of Fritz.



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