Author: Mogens Larsen
Date: 13:31:55 07/23/01
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On July 23, 2001 at 12:37:08, Torstein Hall wrote: >That an IM has the capability to defeat one of the top programs on fast hardware >under match conditions has not been seen for quite a while. So if no one has >data to prove me wrong, I think the demand for proof now is on the "Computer is >not GM" side. We have seen so many comps fighting equal or beating GM's, so now >I want to see an IM beating the computers! It seems like you've missed some of the content of my message. One of the main reasons why the "Are computer programs of GM strength or not" question is ridiculous, is the lack of actual matches. Therefore the actual knowledge about computer programs as opponents from a human perspective is very low, because it isn't necessary and worthwhile to prepare for that option. So there's no actual competition and since the question is based on that presumption, it is meaningless by default. I'm not against computer programs being awarded an imaginary GM title. Especially if it can save the mental health of a few persons. But I'll wait until an imaginary GM title seems less silly and makes sense. So the statement that "That an IM has the capability to defeat one of the top programs on fast hardware under match conditions has not been seen for quite a while" is true, but it doesn't reflect that computer programs are proven superior. My hypothesis is that it's still possible for a computer knowledgable IM to play an even game against any computer program on any hardware. Mainly because Huebner performance wouldn't scare the pants of any IM IMO and it is copyable. >PS I still belive Kramnik will make Chop Sui ( How do I spell that Chinese >dish?) of Fritz. Maybe, maybe not. It would be the first _real_ encounter by my standards between a GM and a computer program in a long time. Anything better than 4.5 points for the computer would mean that they've reached something comparable to GM strength given their current configuration. Anything less than 4.5 points that includes a win would also be significant. Regards, Mogens
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