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Subject: Re: Hubner - Fritz: 3-3 is really disappointing !

Author: Thomas Lagershausen

Date: 13:33:50 07/23/01

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On July 23, 2001 at 15:29:51, odell hall wrote:

>On July 23, 2001 at 15:23:33, Mark Young wrote:
>
>>On July 23, 2001 at 14:37:15, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On July 23, 2001 at 07:20:01, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>
>>>>I am back after summer holiday - no internet access in almost 5 weeks. Can You
>>>>equal this?
>>>>
>>>>I found this result from Chessbase side and I am really disappointed for Fritz
>>>>performance with 2*1000Mhz. This program hasn't any chance against 2800 Kramnik.
>>>>Can they cancel match may be as uninteresting? Or change to Chess Tiger 14...
>>>
>>>3:3 result against one of the best players in the world is nothing short of
>>>phenomenal.  The program did better than I expected.
>>>
>>>The new match will be on 4x more powerful hardware, adding about 100 ELO.
>>>
>>>I don't think any result is cast in stone yet.
>>>
>>>I expect Kramnik to win, but any tiny slip could change that.
>>
>>I do think computers are GM Level, but I think and history has shown this with
>>world champions playing matches with players below the top 25, that the match
>>may be a mismatch. I think GM Kramnik will crush Fritz, but I think this is to
>>be expected. Unless computers are even stronger then the data would predict.
>>
>>I predict a 7.5 - 2.5 score in favor of GM Kramnik, or maybe 6.5-3.5 if GM
>>Kramnik wants to coast. No matter how you look at it, I don't see Fritz winning
>>or drawing this match. GM Kramnik is too strong for today's computers.
>
>
>  You may be Wrong here Mark, Remember Deep Jr. on a 8 processor machine, had a
>performance rating of 2755 beating number 5 in the world Peter Leko, this is a
>lot stronger program then Deep Junior, and no one knows what type of opening
>book is prepared for kramnik, i still believe kramnik will win, but I don't
>think it will be a crush.

Please don“t let us forget that Leko beats Leko in this dubios win of
DeepJunior.He plays hazardchess and not a normal game.Second look at this game
in Dortmund by the 8-processor machine and we know that humans are the better
player on this planet.

[Event "SuperGM"]
[Site "Dortmund GER"]
[Date "2000.07.15"]
[Round "8"]
[White "DEEP JUNIOR 6"]
[Black "Piket, Je"]
[Result "0-1"]
[ECO "B15"]
[BlackElo "2649"]
[PlyCount "68"]
[EventDate "2000.07.07"]
[SourceDate "2000.11.13"]

1. e4 g6 2. d4 Bg7 3. Nc3 c6 4. Nf3 d5 5. h3 a6 6. Bf4 Nf6 7. e5 Nfd7 8. Qd2 e6
9. Bg5 Qb6 10. O-O-O h6 11. Be3 Qc7 12. h4 b5 13. Bf4 Nb6 14. a3 N8d7 15. Kb1
a5 16. Na2 Qa7 17. g4 Bf8 18. c3 Ba6 19. Qe1 Nc4 20. Bd2 Be7 21. Nc1 Ndb6 22.
h5 g5 23. Na2 Kd7 24. Bc1 Rhb8 25. Ka1 b4 26. Nd2 Nxd2 27. Bxd2 Bxf1 28. Rxf1
Nc4 29. Rb1 b3 30. Nc1 Bxa3 31. Qd1 Qb6 32. bxa3 b2+ 33. Ka2 bxc1=Q 34. Qxc1
Qxb1+ 0-1

TL



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