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Subject: Re: Hubner - Fritz: 3-3 is really disappointing !

Author: Frank Quisinsky

Date: 13:42:34 07/23/01

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On July 23, 2001 at 14:37:15, Dann Corbit wrote:

>On July 23, 2001 at 07:20:01, Jouni Uski wrote:
>
>>I am back after summer holiday - no internet access in almost 5 weeks. Can You
>>equal this?
>>
>>I found this result from Chessbase side and I am really disappointed for Fritz
>>performance with 2*1000Mhz. This program hasn't any chance against 2800 Kramnik.
>>Can they cancel match may be as uninteresting? Or change to Chess Tiger 14...
>
>3:3 result against one of the best players in the world is nothing short of
>phenomenal.  The program did better than I expected.
>
>The new match will be on 4x more powerful hardware, adding about 100 ELO.
>
>I don't think any result is cast in stone yet.
>
>I expect Kramnik to win, but any tiny slip could change that.

Hi Dann,

OK, Deep Fritz have better hardware but it is enough for a match against Kramnik
with 2.800 ELO. I don`t know.

I saw in the online match Deep Shredder vs. The World (see the log files) that
maybe more hardware power is not sooo important. So I think that with a program
with the actual hardware (for example: Athlon 1Ghz) get not 60-70 ELO more
compare to a Athlon with 2Ghz. Maybe against a GM 20-40 ELO, I believe 20 ELO !!

I believe Deep Fritz, or Chess Tiger, Junior, Shredder or Gandalf have no chance
in a long match against Kramnik. But the best chance have a program with a lot
of chess knowledge.

I mean, for an example against a Grandmaster:
Deep Fritz tactical strength = 3.000 ELO
Deep Fritz postional strength = 2.350 ELO
Deep Fritz endgame strength = 2.500 ELO

Deep Shredder tactical strength = 2.900 ELO
Deep Shredder positional strength = 2.400 ELO
Deep Shredder endgame strength = 2.550 ELO

Not important is 100 ELO more in tactical stenght but 50 ELO more in positional
strenght is important in combination with tactical strength.

So I think the best chance against Kramnik have:
- World Champion Shredder
- Hiarcs 7 or better 8 :-))
- Gandalf 4.32g
- Maybe Rebel Century, Virtual Chess or Chess Tiger.

Furthermore, only the World Champion Shredder against Kramnik is interesting.
Other programs are for me not interesting.

We have a World Champion, a program which won 3x the World Championschip, so we
have not one reason to play with Fritz !!

Absolutly clear !!
People can write x reasons for a match Kramnik - Tiger or Kramnik - Fritz. All
is not important. Important is that Shredder won 3x the Computer Chess World
Championchip.

Best
Frank



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