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Subject: Re: Hubner - Fritz: 3-3 is really disappointing !

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 13:44:43 07/23/01

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On July 23, 2001 at 16:33:50, Thomas Lagershausen wrote:

>On July 23, 2001 at 15:29:51, odell hall wrote:
>
>>On July 23, 2001 at 15:23:33, Mark Young wrote:
>>
>>>On July 23, 2001 at 14:37:15, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>>
>>>>On July 23, 2001 at 07:20:01, Jouni Uski wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>I am back after summer holiday - no internet access in almost 5 weeks. Can You
>>>>>equal this?
>>>>>
>>>>>I found this result from Chessbase side and I am really disappointed for Fritz
>>>>>performance with 2*1000Mhz. This program hasn't any chance against 2800 Kramnik.
>>>>>Can they cancel match may be as uninteresting? Or change to Chess Tiger 14...
>>>>
>>>>3:3 result against one of the best players in the world is nothing short of
>>>>phenomenal.  The program did better than I expected.
>>>>
>>>>The new match will be on 4x more powerful hardware, adding about 100 ELO.
>>>>
>>>>I don't think any result is cast in stone yet.
>>>>
>>>>I expect Kramnik to win, but any tiny slip could change that.
>>>
>>>I do think computers are GM Level, but I think and history has shown this with
>>>world champions playing matches with players below the top 25, that the match
>>>may be a mismatch. I think GM Kramnik will crush Fritz, but I think this is to
>>>be expected. Unless computers are even stronger then the data would predict.
>>>
>>>I predict a 7.5 - 2.5 score in favor of GM Kramnik, or maybe 6.5-3.5 if GM
>>>Kramnik wants to coast. No matter how you look at it, I don't see Fritz winning
>>>or drawing this match. GM Kramnik is too strong for today's computers.
>>
>>
>>  You may be Wrong here Mark, Remember Deep Jr. on a 8 processor machine, had a
>>performance rating of 2755 beating number 5 in the world Peter Leko, this is a
>>lot stronger program then Deep Junior, and no one knows what type of opening
>>book is prepared for kramnik, i still believe kramnik will win, but I don't
>>think it will be a crush.
>
>Please don“t let us forget that Leko beats Leko in this dubios win of
>DeepJunior.

No
Deep Junior beated leko.

>He plays hazardchess and not a normal game.

I do not know what you talk about.
It was not leko's best game but the same is truth also for other humans who lose
games.


Second look at this game
>in Dortmund by the 8-processor machine and we know that humans are the better
>player on this planet.

1)You cannot know by one game.
2)The software of today is better than the software of July 2000.

Uri



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