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Subject: Re: Hubner - Fritz: 3-3 is really disappointing !

Author: Mogens Larsen

Date: 15:39:13 07/23/01

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On July 23, 2001 at 18:11:25, Torstein Hall wrote:

>I actually agrees on that part. I find it ridiculous to award Computer the title
>GM under any conditions! (Its a title for humans having taken part in the right
>tournaments with a high enough score.) But I interpret it in a different way, as
>meening: Are computer as strong as a (mediocre) GM. I think they at least are
>getting pretty close. And as you know, the computers rarly tires etc. etc.
>And now there are some evidence for that strenght. We had Van der Wiel - Rebel
>match, Hübner - Fritz and Tiger wiping the floor with a pretty strong bunch of
>GM's in Argentina. (I must surly have forgotten some other matches as well.) So
>I think the latest results clearly points in that direction.

All the three match/tournament results you mention lack credibility IMO when it
comes to the question at hand. The players in Argentina had little or no
computer experience AFAIK, which is the problem I mentioned previously. The Van
der Wiel and Hübner efforts shows that it's far from impossible to do well
without too much effort and current playing strength.

So I interpret the results in the opposite direction. In comparison with the
Kramnik match, which requirements aren't exactly beneficial to Deep Fritz, it's
more revealing than the ones mentioned above. Mainly because the human player
has dictated the terms and has considerable financial and prestigious
incentives.

>Is it going to be a 9 game match? Then I predict 3 wins for Kramnik with 6
>draws. Kramnik can draw anyone, or in this case rather anything, when he likes
>to do that.

No, I think it's a 10 game match. I don't think it'll be a covincing win,
because of match strategy. Kramnik will go for draws with black and various
attacking schemes with white. If computer chess has evolved in the years or so,
I think it'll be able to hold most of games with black. My prediction would be
6-4, ie. eight draws and two wins.

Regards,
Mogens



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