Author: Frank Quisinsky
Date: 09:17:15 07/24/01
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On July 24, 2001 at 05:06:26, Mark Young wrote: >On July 23, 2001 at 16:42:34, Frank Quisinsky wrote: > >>On July 23, 2001 at 14:37:15, Dann Corbit wrote: >> >>>On July 23, 2001 at 07:20:01, Jouni Uski wrote: >>> >>>>I am back after summer holiday - no internet access in almost 5 weeks. Can You >>>>equal this? >>>> >>>>I found this result from Chessbase side and I am really disappointed for Fritz >>>>performance with 2*1000Mhz. This program hasn't any chance against 2800 Kramnik. >>>>Can they cancel match may be as uninteresting? Or change to Chess Tiger 14... >>> >>>3:3 result against one of the best players in the world is nothing short of >>>phenomenal. The program did better than I expected. >>> >>>The new match will be on 4x more powerful hardware, adding about 100 ELO. >>> >>>I don't think any result is cast in stone yet. >>> >>>I expect Kramnik to win, but any tiny slip could change that. >> >>Hi Dann, >> >>OK, Deep Fritz have better hardware but it is enough for a match against Kramnik >>with 2.800 ELO. I don`t know. >> >>I saw in the online match Deep Shredder vs. The World (see the log files) that >>maybe more hardware power is not sooo important. So I think that with a program >>with the actual hardware (for example: Athlon 1Ghz) get not 60-70 ELO more >>compare to a Athlon with 2Ghz. Maybe against a GM 20-40 ELO, I believe 20 ELO !! >> >>I believe Deep Fritz, or Chess Tiger, Junior, Shredder or Gandalf have no chance >>in a long match against Kramnik. But the best chance have a program with a lot >>of chess knowledge. >> >>I mean, for an example against a Grandmaster: >>Deep Fritz tactical strength = 3.000 ELO >>Deep Fritz postional strength = 2.350 ELO >>Deep Fritz endgame strength = 2.500 ELO >> >>Deep Shredder tactical strength = 2.900 ELO >>Deep Shredder positional strength = 2.400 ELO >>Deep Shredder endgame strength = 2.550 ELO >> >>Not important is 100 ELO more in tactical stenght but 50 ELO more in positional >>strenght is important in combination with tactical strength. >> >>So I think the best chance against Kramnik have: >>- World Champion Shredder >>- Hiarcs 7 or better 8 :-)) >>- Gandalf 4.32g >>- Maybe Rebel Century, Virtual Chess or Chess Tiger. >> >>Furthermore, only the World Champion Shredder against Kramnik is interesting. >>Other programs are for me not interesting. >> >>We have a World Champion, a program which won 3x the World Championschip, so we >>have not one reason to play with Fritz !! >> >>Absolutly clear !! >>People can write x reasons for a match Kramnik - Tiger or Kramnik - Fritz. All >>is not important. Important is that Shredder won 3x the Computer Chess World >>Championchip. >> >>Best >>Frank > >1. You put to much weight into the Computer Chess World Championship. IMO > >2. It was my understanding Shredder could have played, but chose not to enter. > >3. Shredder is out of the picture, So all we have to write about is Fritz, as >Fritz beat Junior for the right to play GM Kramnik. > >4. I have little doubt that Fritz is as good if not better then Shredder in all >aspects of the game. Hi, I saw enough, played enough games. Sorry I have an other opinion. Best Frank
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